What Order Should I Watch The Stargate Shows In?
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED 11/11/09
So you wake up one morning, and everyone is talking about the new “Stargate; Universe” show. For whatever reason, you’ve never watched a Stargate show before. Why? How should I know? Maybe you’re a recovering Trekie who feared excommunication for looking over the fence at what the other shows were doing. Maybe you’re a liberal demmekrat or a women’s studies professor who inherently fears any show that portrays the United States Armed Forces in a positive light. Maybe you were living in a Unibomber-style shack in the middle of nowhere and didn’t get cable. Maybe you’re Jane Goodall. Maybe you’re a perfectly normal non-geek person who didn’t really watch SF at all until Galactica became trendy, and now you’ve got an itch that can only be scratched by a dingy space ship that’s poorly lit and falling apart.
Whatever the reason, however, you’ve managed to miss the thirteen or fourteen years.
A working knowledge of SGU has not, thus far, been crucial to enjoying the show. Indeed, I think they’re doing a really solid job of riding that line between ‘accessible’ and ‘continuity porn’ that so many series with “Star” in their names fall prey to. Even so, it’s possible that you’ve discerned that there’s a lot of backstory here, and you want to know more about the Stargate universe - who’s this “O’Neil” guy that everyone seems in awe of? Who was that surprisingly hot middle-aged chick who was commanding a starship in the first episode? What’s all this talk about “Homeworld Security?” Who are the Ancients and what’s all this new-agey twaddle about “Ascension?” For whatever reason that brought you here, you want to know more about the playing field that your new favorite show is sitting in the middle of.
At the same time, Stargate is freakin’ daunting as hell: One movie, two straight-to-DVD movies (And counting), four series (And counting), and three HUNDRED and thirty-three total hours worth of episodes (And counting) - it’s a hell of a lot to take in all in one sitting, even for the most OCD of compulsive Trekies or mouthbreathing of Marvel fans. And if THEY can’t do it, then what chance do you have? It’s enough to make you just throw your hands up in frustration and go back to whatever the hell it was that you were doing which caused you to miss 14 years worth of TV in the first place.
But, fear not, stout yeoman, I can help!
Before we begin, you can completely ignore “Stargate: Infinity” - that saves you 13 hours right there. It’s a cartoon show, poorly animated, and completely out of continuity with all the other shows. Ignore it, speak no more of it, and pretend it never happened.
Now then, to actually start, you need to watch the actual theatrical “Stargate” movie.
For the record, I hated this movie when I first saw it in 1994, and I still don’t like it much. I can certainly sympathize with your misguided efforts to go out and enjoy life and do real-world things rather than waste your time with Stargate if that’s all you’ve got to go on, because I myself did exactly that. I not only didn’t watch the show, I avoided the hell out of it until some time in the 7th season, when it suddenly grabbed me that I was being a fool, and this was a damn fine little show I’d been missing.
Anyway, once that cinematic unpleasantness is out of the way, just netflix or purchast Stargate: SG1 Seasons 1-7, just watch 'em straight out of the box in the order they come out in, and you're fine. No real problems there. Things don’t get potentially confusing until after that.
Season 8 of SG1 and Season 1 of Stargate: Atlantis (Hereafter “SGA”) ran concurrently on the old Sci-Fi channel, and they ran back-to-back on the same night of the week (Friday, if you care). The writers knew this would be the case going in to the season, and wrote accordingly, so the 'recommended viewing order' is pretty easy to keep straight, far easier than I‘d anticipated when I sat down to write this:
Start the season with SG1's two parter ("New Order") and then watch SGA's 2-parter premier, ("Rising"), then watch SG1's 3rd episode, SGA's 3rd episode, SG1's 4th episode, SGA's 4th episode, SG1's 5th episode, SGA's 5th, and so on, but make sure to watch both parts of the SG1 season finale, "Mobieus," before you watch the SGA finale, "The Siege."
That's a little frustrating, I know, a little more effort than you probably want to put in to it, I totally understand if you don't wanna', I'm just putting it out there if you're still in to the whole “Stargate” thing by that point. I mean, there’s 320 hours of Stargate (If we ignore “Infinity”), there’s every chance that you’ll loose interest, or get a girlfriend, or that SGU will simply crap out, crash and burn by then, and it won’t be worth your time to fill in all the backstory in your mental map. But if you want to do this thing right, that’s the way to go about it. And there's more overlap between SG1 and SGA in that year (SG1 10/SGA 1) than any other season, though, so if you wanna' watch them in their 'intended' order, there's more reward for doing it in this season than in any other (Though precious little real reward, as it's just a TV show, after all.)
(Incidentally, "Mobius" is, on some levels, a finale for the entire SG1 series, though the show didn't end for another 2 years. It is, however, kind of a bittersweet farewell to the 'classic' show, which they knew was getting a major retread in the next year, and they wanted to reward fans with a clever look at what was before forcing a new reality down their throats. Some people hated the next few years of SG1, personally I loved it, and thought it was a lot of fun. Your mileage may vary.)
Season 9 of SG1 and Season 2 of SGA again run concurrently, though there's less overlap between them, so it's less important to watch 'em in the intended order like it was in Season 1 of SGA. If you DO want to watch them in Chronological order like this, though, I'd suggest starting the season off with the SGA year 2 premier, which is the conclusion of the season finale cliffhanger. Mobius, the SG1 finale for the previous season, wasn't a cliffhanger. In any event, watch episode 1 of SGA, then 1 of SG1, then episode 2 of SGA, then episode 2 of SG1, and so on.
Season 10 of SG1 and Season 3 of SGA run concurrently, but with very little direct contact between them, aside from some dialog here and there. If you wanna' watch 'em in order, though, it's your same basic SG1-1, SGA-1,SG1-2,SGA-2, and so on. If there's two-parters involved, watch the parts together, of course. SG1 concludes pretty abruptly and unsatisfyingly at the end of this year, with a lot of balls in the air. (I’ll probably never forgive Sci-Fi/Syfy for that)
Once Season 10 of SG1 and Season 3 of SGA are out of the way, you need to watch a straight-to-DVD movie called "Stargate: The Ark of Truth" which resolves most of the lingering plot threads from the previous 2 years of SG1. After THAT's out of the way, start the 4th season of SGA. You really need to have all that other crap out of the way before starting the 4th season, or else there's a big "huh?" in the casting that'll confuse you.
Once you're through Season 4, start Season 5, but only watch the first episode. That'll resolve the cliffhanger ending from season 4, and set up the next straight-to-DVD movie, "Stargate: Continuum," This is a really good DVD movie, no end of fun,though it does kind of wander over the same ground as “Mobius” thematically. After that's out of the way, go watch the rest of Season 5 which (As is traditional for Stargate shows) ends rather abruptly and unsatisfyingly far earlier than the producers had intended.
Don't worry about that unduly, however: there's an Atlantis Straight-to-DVD movie in the works that should wrap shooting by the time you've worked your way up to it. There should be another SG1 movie by then, too.
Anyway, once you've got season 5 of "SGA" out of the way, it's time for SGU, baby, and you're au courant!
I’d like to thank Darren Sumner of Gateworld for helping me out immeasurably (And promptly!) with some information I needed for the writing of this article. Gateworld is pretty much the one-stop-shopping-spot for all things SG-related, and you should really check it out here http://www.gateworld.net/ and you can find out more information about the episode order on that site here http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/05/stargate-recommended-viewing-order/
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Fri, 08/05/2011 - 10:45
#1
fragging man
yeah i know what fragging is, i just don't see how it applies here. you're saying the cast should have turned on wright?
No.
the studio?
No, but in the end that was what happened.
the fans definitely did turn on him.
Yes, but not relevant to the incompetence of the characters.
or are you saying the characters should have killed young?
The characters of Young and Scott struck me as particularly incompetent.
Fri, 08/05/2011 - 10:35
#2
Entitlement
someone finally said it. other sites - nameless - had episodes reviewed by clearly heterosexual clearly middle-aged clearly lonely clearly overweight women who were clearly obsessed with their gay fantasies about sheppard and mckay. one site in particular used to run10 page reviews[!] at at least a page, frquently mre, was dedicated to shipping. i find the whole think kinda' icky myself so i never looked int the stats, but i got the STRONG impression that it was mostly an unsettling lonely unattractive pilloried-by-society middle-aged-woman thing. sad to know my hunch was right.
Maybe this is a reaction to the proliferation of lesbian pornography that is intended for heterosexual males?
>>In the cast interviews on the Season One DVDs for SGU, Brian J. Smith talks about the "built-in" fanbase that Stargate has. I think that Brad Wright thought that he could produce anything with the Stargate name and get an automatic renewal. He felt entitled.<<
no reason he wouldnt have. they gave him 2 seasons up front.
That is just it. Brad Wright felt entitled to five seasons of SGU.
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 21:36
#4
k
>>>When they released the news that SGA was canceled and SGU picked up, they also said that there would be an SGA movie and that it would play on Syfy before being released to DVD. Brad Wright and others made statements that this would assist in the production of the movie.<<<
yeah i remembered that. it was generally called 'stargate:extinction'. i just didn't see how this tied in w/ what you said before
>>>It was said at the time that Syfy really wanted an SGA movie to close all of the loose ends because Syfy did not cancel SGA. Brad Wright canceled SGA.<<<
ive been confused by this for some time, and i am inclined to think there was some deliberate misrepresentation on wright's part. the party line on the subject was that syfy decided - along w/ wright - to shut down sga a year early so as to free up money for sgu. joint decision. ,ay be true, but the implication - which i no longer buy -is that he had no choice.
i've come to think wright was never really satisfied with sga [it was a very uneven show] and just kinda' wanted out of it. to some extent, i think sgu represents a kind of do-over of the initial sga premise, hold the cheese.
>>>During the Vietnam War, ordinary soldiers learned that fragmentation grenades could kill without leaving enough evidence for the Army to determine the killer. Incompetent officers sometimes had their lives ended with fragmentation grenades. The Muslim members of the US Army who used fragmentation grenades against their fellow soldiers in Iraq were caught using methods that did not require an autopsy (i.e. eyewitnesses)<<<
yeah i know what fragging is, i just don't see how it applies here. you're saying the cast should have turned on wright? the studio? the fans definitely did turn on him. or are you saying the characters should have killed young?
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 19:22
#5
bad touch
admitting my bias - by the way, i', touch typing with my left hand now and hunt-and-pecking with my right one so i can write a bit faster, but the caps still kill me - ad,itting ,u bias, i don't think the shwo sucked. that said -did fans attempt to kill the show? i have heard from at least one who called for a boycott on another site pretty much the moment the show was announced. so it seems there was at least a bit of whackjobery on the part of some sga fans.
The successor web site to the SGUSucks web site has less than 700 members. I strongly doubt that the viewing patterns of more than 1000 people were affected by what was posted there. SGU had sub-million episodes during the first half of season two.
i don't think we can pin any of this on sg1 fans, tehystarted to drift away in the fargate years, and didn't stick around for sga. sgu seemed to be making a concerted effort to bring the sg1 fans back. so IF any fans were trying to hurt the shwo they clearly would have been mckay/sheppard shippers and dateless wonders like that. i can't imagine there are enough people writing sga porn to really affect the ratings of sgu, however.
Middle aged women tend to dominate the ranks of the McSheppers. This is one thing that you cannot blame on the international homosexual community. That would be a good float for a pride parade. Have a float with McKay and Sheppard hugging with signs that say, "Don't blame us for this." There used to be someone on SGUSucks who had a avatar that showed McKay and Sheppard with mysterious smiles on their faces, like they were touching each other.
what i think happened was simply that the ratings were crap because they ,ade a show no one was interested in. i can't imagine there were enough people interested enough to even bother trying to hurt it.
In the cast interviews on the Season One DVDs for SGU, Brian J. Smith talks about the "built-in" fanbase that Stargate has. I think that Brad Wright thought that he could produce anything with the Stargate name and get an automatic renewal. He felt entitled.
i'm not convinced the schedule changes were wise, but i'm not sure they would have gotten a third season even if they'd stayed on friday nights.
Syfy expected better ratings with an expensive show like SGU than cheap shows like SGA, Sanctuary, Eureka, and Warehouse 13. Because of this expectation, they expected SGU to perform well on nights other than Friday and maintain good numbers in the face of network competition during the fall.
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 18:51
#6
fragging man
>>Remember, the SGA movie was supposed to play on the network formerly known as Sci-Fi before being released to DVD. This would have generated revenue well in excess of what is generated by a typical Saturday morning Syfy special movie.<<<
i think maybe you changed topic there, i don't quite follow what syfi has to do w/ a dvd movie if he had no intention of making one. explain?
When they released the news that SGA was canceled and SGU picked up, they also said that there would be an SGA movie and that it would play on Syfy before being released to DVD. Brad Wright and others made statements that this would assist in the production of the movie. It was said at the time that Syfy really wanted an SGA movie to close all of the loose ends because Syfy did not cancel SGA. Brad Wright canceled SGA.
Huh?
During the Vietnam War, ordinary soldiers learned that fragmentation grenades could kill without leaving enough evidence for the Army to determine the killer. Incompetent officers sometimes had their lives ended with fragmentation grenades. The Muslim members of the US Army who used fragmentation grenades against their fellow soldiers in Iraq were caught using methods that did not require an autopsy (i.e. eyewitnesses).
i didn't realize the sets were scrapped prior to last month. i thought theyd folden-n-stored 'em. interesting.
The days of recycling props and costumes are apparently long gone.
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 18:34
#7
bias
>>>The SGU Wikipedia article quotes Brad Wright:
I don’t think if we, for any reason, go away, it is an issue necessarily of the quality of the product that we’ve been making. I think getting moved on the schedule has hurt us. And the fact that some of the fans that liked SG-1 and Atlantis were so angry that they have deliberately hurt us, which is unfortunate.
The show sucked! Casual viewers saw the kwap and changed channels.<<<
admitting my bias - by the way, i', touch typing with my left hand now and hunt-and-pecking with my right one so i can write a bit faster, but the caps still kill me - ad,itting ,u bias, i don't think the shwo sucked. that said -did fans attempt to kill the show? i have heard from at least one who called for a boycott on another site pretty much the moment the show was announced. so it seems there was at least a bit of whackjobery on the part of some sga fans.
i don't think we can pin any of this on sg1 fans, tehystarted to drift away in the fargate years, and didn't stick around for sga. sgu seemed to be making a concerted effort to bring the sg1 fans back. so IF any fans were trying to hurt the shwo they clearly would have been mckay/sheppard shippers and dateless wonders like that. i can't imagine there are enough people writing sga porn to really affect the ratings of sgu, however.
what i think happened was simply that the ratings were crap because they ,ade a show no one was interested in. i can't imagine there were enough people interested enough to even bother trying to hurt it.
i'm not convinced the schedule changes were wise, but i'm not sure they would have gotten a third season even if they'd stayed on friday nights.
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 18:25
#8
re: links
i had a feeling they weren't standing sets anymore, since the only scenes of the gateroom was daniel's scenes on teh introduction dvd eli watches. they never showed the place, or even made a reference to the sgc, it was always 'homeworld command.'
heartbreaking, but this is the way of tv. they scrapped most of b5 to make room for the excalibur, the tng sets went bye-bye to make room for others. i hate to see this stuff happen, though.
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 18:20
#9
>>> I am completely sure that
>>> I am completely sure that they had no intention of making an SGA DVD movie. Inside sources say that Brad Wright was quite angry after doing a fan Q & A on Joseph Mallozzi's blog that was supposed to be generating publicity for SGU where all the fans asked questions about the SGA movie.<<<
that i knew but i thought it ws just annoyance, not anything more than that. like when an author wants to talk about his neww book but all people ask about is teh episode of Trek he/she wrote.
>>>For the first year of SGU, Brad Wright merely had no intention to produce an SGA movie; when the SGA sets were destroyed to create the new second season sets for SGU, Brad Wright lost the ABILITY to produce an SGA movie.<<<
i didn't realize the sets were scrapped prior to last month. i thought theyd folden-n-stored 'em. interesting.
>>Remember, the SGA movie was supposed to play on the network formerly known as Sci-Fi before being released to DVD. This would have generated revenue well in excess of what is generated by a typical Saturday morning Syfy special movie.<<<
i think maybe you changed topic there, i don't quite follow what syfi has to do w/ a dvd movie if he had no intention of making one. explain?
>>>Like military officers and men who could avoid the fragmentation grenade of justice from their fellow soldiers?<<<
Huh?
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 17:04
#10
In Brad Wright's own words
The SGU Wikipedia article quotes Brad Wright:
I don’t think if we, for any reason, go away, it is an issue necessarily of the quality of the product that we’ve been making. I think getting moved on the schedule has hurt us. And the fact that some of the fans that liked SG-1 and Atlantis were so angry that they have deliberately hurt us, which is unfortunate.
The show sucked! Casual viewers saw the kwap and changed channels.
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 16:42
#11
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 16:37
#12
backstory
anyway, are you sure there was no intention of making an sga movie? the impression i got from people connected to the show was that they were all solidly believing they were going to get the sg1-straight-2-dvd treatment. [they were clearly unhappy about their abrupt cancellation though] they made a point of wrapping up the ori storyline, i can't believe tehy wouldn't have intended to wrap up the wraith one. i never really believed they were going to do an ongoing series of sga moviesm one a year like they said, that just struck me as unfeasable, but i did believe tehy were gonna make at least one, which would bomb, and that would be the end of it.
Yes, I am completely sure that they had no intention of making an SGA DVD movie. Inside sources say that Brad Wright was quite angry after doing a fan Q & A on Joseph Mallozzi's blog that was supposed to be generating publicity for SGU where all the fans asked questions about the SGA movie. For the first year of SGU, Brad Wright merely had no intention to produce an SGA movie; when the SGA sets were destroyed to create the new second season sets for SGU, Brad Wright lost the ABILITY to produce an SGA movie. Remember, the SGA movie was supposed to play on the network formerly known as Sci-Fi before being released to DVD. This would have generated revenue well in excess of what is generated by a typical Saturday morning Syfy special movie.
i like sgu but im the first to admit it sort of went out of its way to avoid the things people liked about the otehr shows.
Like military officers and men who could avoid the fragmentation grenade of justice from their fellow soldiers?
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 15:55
#13
carpal tunnel
terse. right hand hurts. sorry.
anyway, are you sure there was no intention of making an sga movie? the impression i got from people connected to the show was that they were all solidly believing they were going to get the sg1-straight-2-dvd treatment. [they were clearly unhappy about their abrupt cancellation though] they made a point of wrapping up the ori storyline, i can't believe tehy wouldn't have intended to wrap up the wraith one. i never really believed they were going to do an ongoing series of sga moviesm one a year like they said, that just struck me as unfeasable, but i did believe tehy were gonna make at least one, which would bomb, and that would be the end of it.
i like sgu but im the first to admit it sort of went out of its way to avoid the things people liked about the otehr shows.
Thu, 08/04/2011 - 14:51
#14
Brad Wright's final FU to the fans
Don't worry about that unduly, however: there's an Atlantis Straight-to-DVD movie in the works that should wrap shooting by the time you've worked your way up to it. There should be another SG1 movie by then, too.
There was no intention to produce a DVD Stargate Atlantis movie. The only reason they said that they were going to do one was to convince Atlantis fans to watch Universe.
A significant number of Atlantis fans did watch the pilot for Stargate Universe. Stargate Universe continually shed viewers from the pilot to the middle of the second season. The best way to view SGU is as Brad Wright's final FU to the fans.
Learn the facts about SGU at you know where.
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:36
#15
Thanks. It just seems a bit
Thanks. It just seems a bit silly that I over-analyzed it that much, though.
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:47
#16
Don't apologize
Don't apologize, man. Questions are a good thing. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something.
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:20
#17
Continuity
No. I'm the one making things more muddled, sorry. Continuum probably happens at the same time as EP2 or 3.
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:58
#18
I guess...
>>>Could Continuum be right before episode 4 of the final season of SGA?<<<
I guess. It'd have to take place pretty close to when Carter leaves that show.
I hope I haven't made things more muddled...
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 00:06
#19
Continuity
Could Continuum be right before episode 4 of the final season of SGA?
.....Screw it, I'll just watch them in the order you suggested once I get to them. Seems to make enough sense and there's no need to over-complicate things.
Mon, 10/25/2010 - 18:31
#20
Oh, hey, happy to help.
>>>I guess what I am saying is EP2 and Continuum both continue directly from EP1, but EP2 does not continue directly from Continuum. Am I correct in this assumption?<<<
I'm having a little bit of difficulty following the way you phrased that, but if I understand you correctly:
"Arc of Truth" takes place *after* Season 10, episode 20 of SG1, and prior to Season 3, episode 4 of SGA. You could conceivably stick it anywhere in there, and it would fit, however the consensus is that the best fit is immediately prior to the season 3 SGA finale.
In the first episode of Season 5 of SGA, Carter says, basically, "I'm going home to take part in Continuum now. Bye!" and she leaves. Her dialog very pointedly sets up the movie, so it obviously couldn't have taken place prior to it, and there's no reason to assume it happened long afterwards, since her dialog makes it clear she's going back for a specific thing that's just about to happen.
I hope that's what you were looking for.
>>>Thanks for all the help.<<<
Oh, hey, happy to do it!
Mon, 10/25/2010 - 16:05
#21
Continuity
Okay. I understand what you are saying about Ark of Truth, but couldn't Continuum go anytime after the first episode of Season 5 of SGA, as long as it it after episode 1, where Carter leaves? Maybe there is some time in-between them.
I guess what I am saying is EP2 and Continuum both continue directly from EP1, but EP2 does not continue directly from Continuum. Am I correct in this assumption?
For the record here are the air dates:
http://epguides.com/StargateSG1/
http://epguides.com/StargateAtlantis/
Thanks for all the help.
P.S. Jaye Davidson was my favorite part of the original movie, and I can't say about when Shanks takes over the character, but right now (Season 1) I prefer Spader's Jackson, not to mention e is one of my favorite actors.
Mon, 10/25/2010 - 08:31
#22
The greatest thing in the history of things
>>This is the greatest show ever made. I've watched all episodes twice.Some of the epssodes I could watch over and over again, apparently. <<
Actually, yeah, I agree. The big three SF franchises are Trek, Dr. Who, and Stargate. Stargate gets the least love of any of them since it's always deliberately avoided pretension, but if I were gonna' rank 'em, it'd be
#1 Doctor Who
#2 Stargate
#3 Trek
Trek's a distant third.
Mon, 10/25/2010 - 08:27
#23
Spoiler Free
>>First of all the movie is the best, and James Spader OWNs Michael Shanks.<<
Nah, I much prefer Shanks (Though Spader was the best thing about the movie), he just gradually takes over the character and does neat stuff with it.
>>With that out of the way, I have a question. Couldn't I just watch them according to the air/release dates(excluding 2-parters?)<<
Kinda. For the most part, they're the same thing. During the SG1/SGA overlap years, both shows were airing on the same night on the same network, and the folks writing both shows knew this was going to be the case, so in general, the SGA episodes happen *between* the SG1 episodes. So, yeah, you could and would be following the air dates if you watched 'em by chronological order, it's just the air dates would be the same for episodes of both shows.
>>>This would put Ark of Truth after Season 4 of SGA. Wouldn't it fit perfectly in that continuity since all we know is that it goes sometime after Season 10 of SG-1, but before Continuum?
It would also place Continuum after Season 5 Episode 3: Broken Ties. According to IMDB, Amanda Tapping Leaves the show in Episode 1 and does not come back until the final episode. She could be doing whatever in Continuum, which could take place anytime between the first ad final episode, during this time.
Would viewing them like this leave any continuity errors? Fro everything I've heard, it doesn't seem so, but correct me if I'm wrong because I'm still on Season 1 of SG-1.<<<
Originally the intention was to have Arc and Continuum take place in the space between the end of SG1 and the start of season 4 of SGA. They began to have production and scheduling problems, and then they just kinda' realized that was cramming too much stuff in there, so they changed their mind during the production of those two DVDs.
"Arc" takes place between season 10 of SG1 and Season 4 of SGA, and they do make eliptical references to the results of Arc in subsequent seasons of SGA. When Carter leaves Atlantis the last time, she mentions that she's heading home specifically so she can be there for the event that sets off "Continuum"
Welcome to the site, and thanks for posting! Please do hang around.
Sun, 10/24/2010 - 13:39
#24
This is the greatest show
This is the greatest show ever made. I've watched all episodes twice.Some of the epssodes I could watch over and over again, apparently.
Sun, 10/24/2010 - 10:45
#25
Continuity
First of all the movie is the best, and James Spader OWNs Michael Shanks.
With that out of the way, I have a question. Couldn't I just watch them according to the air/release dates(excluding 2-parters?)
This would put Ark of Truth after Season 4 of SGA. Wouldn't it fit perfectly in that continuity since all we know is that it goes sometime after Season 10 of SG-1, but before Continuum?
It would also place Continuum after Season 5 Episode 3: Broken Ties. According to IMDB, Amanda Tapping Leaves the show in Episode 1 and does not come back until the final episode. She could be doing whatever in Continuum, which could take place anytime between the first ad final episode, during this time.
Would viewing them like this leave any continuity errors? Fro everything I've heard, it doesn't seem so, but correct me if I'm wrong because I'm still on Season 1 of SG-1. Also, I would prefer if you didn't use spoilers, but its okay if you do. Thank you.
Sun, 04/18/2010 - 21:49
#26
Levels of disaster
Tough call. On the one hand, you have expectations about anything Stargate, and it totally disapointed on every level. On the other hand, it's a lame Disney straight-to-video ancilliary marketing device, so you know going in that it's gonna' be crap.
I guess the difference is that SGI was a bomb that completely missed the target, so it did no real harm, while 1/2 was a bomb that completely nailed the target.
Sun, 04/18/2010 - 21:30
#27
Infinity
So, which was a greater insult to its franchise? INFINITY or or LION KING 1/2? I mean LION KING 1/2 was what Joel McHale referred to as the "not the 1994 smash theatre hit, no not the 1997(?) direct-to-video hit, but the 2005 franchise killer."
Sun, 04/18/2010 - 16:38
#28
SGI
Yeah, that was pretty terrible. I've never made it through a full episode.
Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:50
#29
STARGATE: INFINITY
"Before we begin, you can completely ignore “Stargate: Infinity” - that saves you 13 hours right there. It’s a cartoon show, poorly animated, and completely out of continuity with all the other shows. Ignore it, speak no more of it, and pretend it never happened."
Just like LION KING 1/2.
Sat, 11/14/2009 - 00:24
#30
Stargate: The Movie
I never really liked the movie. I was bored by it in the theaters, and re-watched it a couple years ago because my opinions do change from time to time. Though the comedy appeal of French Stewart playing a tough guy isn't lost on me, it still bored me. I agree with Chruch that it's kind of tedious to sit through it, and if you've got to skip something, that's the one to skip.
The first episode is clunky as hell, so much so that they themselves have made fun of it several times. They recently re-edited it and re-did the FX to make it more consistent, but I haven't seen it. I'm told it's even weaker, now, though.
Fri, 11/13/2009 - 23:33
#31
Pilot
The pilot had the unenviable job of bridging the movie and the premise for the series. It was a rolling retcon... and brilliant in concept (if a bit flat in execution).
It introduced two new characters, recast two characters (but kept them IN character), integrated two or three more holdovers from the movie, revised a basic conceit of the movie without invalidating it, introduced the guiding principles of the series and had a particularly hot naked chick.
Not too shabby.
Fri, 11/13/2009 - 22:44
#32
Good advice
I'd say you could drop the movie entirely, and possibly the pilot for SG1 (it doesn't quite fit with the rest of the series.)
Wed, 11/11/2009 - 12:47
#33
No reason
Well, yeah, there is that, but you know, there's no reason CoDominion would have to be made as an AMERICAN film. I mean, half the characters are theoretically of Russian descent. I'd be willing to spring for some Russian CD movies, hot Russian babes subtitled and pretending to be American. I imagine we could make the movies for like $11 over there. $12 if you want to do Falkenberg's Legion.
Wed, 11/11/2009 - 11:23
#34
To conservative for Hollywood
It's a hallow wish on my part they would never make the CoDominium it shows the military as the saviors of mankind and has a conservative slant. Look at the heartburn that V is generating on the left imagine a show that has Falkenberg's Legion save the day the lefties would freak.
Wed, 11/11/2009 - 09:01
#35
CoDominium
I am really surprised no one's ever done the CoDominium. Given that there's no aliens, and it's pretty much confined to space ships and earth-like worlds, it should be pretty damn easy, and yet....[tumbleweeds and crickets chirping]...
Wed, 11/11/2009 - 02:37
#36
SGU is OK but I would rather see the Lensmen or something
I watched Stargate from the time it was on Showtime till they started the Ori ark and then I went to watching once in a while. I hated SGA from the start and have only seen a hand full of episodes.
I do not see where you really have to have watched the other Stargate shows to enjoy SGU the back story does not come up that much. But watching the original movie (which I liked) and the first season of SG1 gives a pretty good foundation to understand something’s in SGU.
I always thought that after the defeat of Anubis that SG1 should have ended and a new spinoff started or just leave it there and do a whole original show. As for SGA I never liked any of the characters so them being trapped in another galaxy was OK with me. It’s hard to get into a show when you wish the bad guy would drop a nuke on the good guys just to get it over with.
What I really wish for is an original space opera like the Lensmen or the Polesothechnic League or Hammer's Slammers or CoDominium etc.
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>>>Middle aged women tend to dominate the ranks of the McSheppers. This is one thing that you cannot blame on the international homosexual community. That would be a good float for a pride parade. Have a float with McKay and Sheppard hugging with signs that say, "Don't blame us for this." There used to be someone on SGUSucks who had a avatar that showed McKay and Sheppard with mysterious smiles on their faces, like they were touching each other.<<<
THANK you! THANK you!
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