Stargate: Ruminations.

Now that SGU is on hiatus for a bit, I thought I'd bring up some things I've been wondering about since it came on. I really began to question this stuff around episode 7 or so, and while it didn't detract from my enjoyment of the show, some questions were just kind of nagging at me. I didn't really want to broach the subject while they were actually running new episodes, however, because I didn't want to "Insult the living by speaking of the dead" as they say. Now that we've got some time to catch our breath, however:

1) What the hell is SG1 doing these days?

We've seen a lot of Jack, and we've seen a bit of Carter and Daniel, but what about the others? The two straight-to-DVD movies were strongly implying that SG1 was still a going concern, still SG1ing around the galaxy doing stuff, so where are they?

- Obviously, Jack's been out of that for a long time now (And for what it's worth, I like him in the General Hammond role on SGU).
- Carter appears to have been re-assigned to the Hammond, her second major re-assignment since the show ended, so it would seem that she's out of SG1 permanently.
- Daniel is obviously still running around.

What about Teal'c? Will we ever see him again? It seems unlikely, as there's probably little in the way of Ancient Tech Problems that would really require a Jaffa's insight, but still, what's he up to?

What about the newbies? Where's Cam and Valla? Yes, I know the "Fargate" years weren't as popular, nor as iconic as the main sequence of the show, but let's be honest here: They were not at all a disaster. It's not like we're talking the last couple sesons of X-Files! I think the bad reputation those seasons have with some fans is simply the result of the show getting truncated in mid-transition. The thing is, I really liked those two, I thought they brought a lot to the show, and I'd really like to see them again.

I'd hate to see them as orphan characters.

2) What's going on with Atlantis?

When last we saw it, Area 51 had been destroyed, and Atlantis was parked in the Pacific off the San Francisco coast. There was talk of trying to send it back to the Pegasus galaxy again.

- Is it still there?
- Is Woolsey still in command?
- What of the Wraith war?
- What of the new "Federation" they'd developed in the Pegasus Galaxy? Did it fall apart when Atlantis left?
- What about Shepherd's team? Have they been re-assigned, are they still together, or what?

I realize that most of this is incidental to the SGU story, but there is literally no one alive who knows more about Ancient tech than Rodney McKay. Is it too much to ask that he show up in at least one episode of SGU? It seemed odd to me in episode 7 ("Earth") that we'd have had a new, bald, Russian IOA guy introduced in what was traditionally the Woolsey capacity.

I'm not saying that I need resolution to all these issuse on SGU, mind you, it's not keeping me awake at night, and as I've said, I really like the new show. That said, however, we've seen three major vintage SG1 characters (And Walter, and Dr. Lee!) in the new show, and all Atlantis got was a namecheck in the first episode. I don't want SGU to become Atlantis: TNG, and truth be told, I was never anywhere near as big a fan of SGA as I was of SG1, but to me the Gateverse feels a little off balance if we only get guest stars from one show.

3) The Movies: What's the deal with the Stargate Straight-to-DVD movies, anyway? Word on the street is that there's a 3rd SG1 one which is primarily about Jack, and won't involve Valla at all. Theyv'e been talking about an SGA movie for quite a while, presumably to resolve the Wraith War thread, but I've heard no mention of progress on either film for quite some time, and I don't know if they're even still going ahead. Were I a betting man, the SGA one seems more likely to come to fruition than the SG1 movie, but given the mad rush to abandon SGA a year early and jump on with SGU (Which shows every sign of becoming a better show, so I'm not complaining about the decision), the whole of SGA is beginning to feel nearly as "Orphaned" as poor Vala and Cam.

4) General Landry:

Landry was the main point of continuity and contact between SG1 and SGA, and after SG1 ended, between SGA and the SGC. I liked the character, I like the actor, but though namechecked a few times, he was conspicuously absent in SGA's final season, and he hasn't been referenced at all on the new show. This is logical, as the Icarus/Destiny project seems to be run directly by the Office of Homeworld Security, rather than through the SGC. Again, I'm not complaining. I'd just like to see him in some capacity somewhere in the run of the show since, once again, I think he added to much to the Gateverse to end up as yet another orphan character.

5) Is SGU the end of Stargate?

The producers have said they hope SGU will run at least three seasons. And then what? Is there a concept for another show after this one? Is this an ongoing, eternal franchise like Dr. Who and Trek? Or will they simply be SG'ed out, and decide to do that sitcom about a sarcastic robot living secretly with a suburban family that they've been daydreaming about since college*? Where do we go from here?

So that's what I've got. Do any of you have any lingering Gate-related issues that are nagging at you?

*- that was a joke. No such show exists. I made it up.

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I noticed it too on the Hollywood Reporter here http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i27f167feba4e... It gives some hints about where the next 30 episodes will go.

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I09 is reporting that SGU and Sanctuary have both been pickup for 20 more episodes for the 2010 fall season.

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Agreed, it'd be sad for her character not to have a life apart from her job, and practically a sin for someone with her looks, brain, and deadshot targeting ability *not* to have a kid or three.

At the same time, it'd seem fake if we just find out she married some guy offscreen when we weren't looking, you know? For that bit a life change, we'd sort of need to have her center-screen again for a substantial ammount of time (At least a DVD movie) or else it'd seem like a cheat, like when Cheers characters turned up on Frasier and told us a whole bunch of stuff about other characters that seemed...ehm...out of character? Like a radical change? Distracting?

It's been implied, by the way, that she and Jack *might* have a relationship, but that "It's complicated." Also, it was implied the last two times we saw Teal'c that he and Carter had a 50-year relationship in a pocket universe that he remembers and she doesn't, and that he's still got some feelings for her, but is too stoical to do anything about it. That doesn't really count, of course.

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I would hate to think that Carter as a character would not grow beyond her career in the Air Force. But there are real life precedents Admiral Rickover was commissioned in 1922 and was still in charge of the Navel Nuclear Power Program when I joined the Navy in 1978. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_G._Rickover

But for Carter to become a Rickover type character would be sad to me he died fours years after being forced to retire and in his last years became anti nuclear power and weapons which seems strange for the father of the nuclear Navy.

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To be fair, SGA *did* get better as it went along, but it was never as good as SG1.

But, you know, they don't really let characters ride off into the sunset in the Gateverse, and they tend to handle their returns with much greater aplomb than the Trekiverse did. I mean, Carter's a 44-year-old full-colonel in the USAF, and a fast-burner. Obviously she's elligiable for retirement, but realistically how likely is it that she would when she doesn't have a family and she really likes her job?

General Hammond left the show for health reasons, but they just said he was kicked upstairs and we saw him three times after that. When the actor died, they said that Hammond died, and named a ship after him. Jack left the show to spend more time with his family and to put on weight, and again they said he was kicked upstairs, but he's made at least a dozen appearances since he left. Daniel's made one or two SGA appearances and one in SGU, Teal'c made an SGA appearance, Carter commanded Atlantis for a season, Also-Rans like Woolsey and Rodney keep turning up. Hell, Dr. Lee and Walter have turned up in all three shows! I'm not saying I feel the need to follow these characters around all the time, I just kinda' wanna' know they're still out there kicking it in some capacity.

Also, in the case of Cameron "Shaft" Mitchell and Vala Mal Doran, I wasn't quite done with them yet, you know? I liked those characters, and didn't get my fill. I would have loved for them to be on the Destiny/Icarus crew in some capacity.

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The problem with the Gateverse is it has been on to long like Trek the owners of the franchise do not know when to let go. SGU could have been a good stand alone series that did not bring on the questions you are asking. That is the problem with long running series that spawn spin offs the back stories become cumbersome and people sometimes are unhappy when a favorite character is no longer a part of the story. The comic book world has had this problem for years and even with retcons and like the coming DC restart of their major lines fans get frustrated with the whole thing.

I never liked SGA it was too much like Gilligan’s Island with aliens that seemed to rehash the SG1 adventures with new and not as compelling characters. SGU is a fresh look at the Gateverse but there has to be and they lived happily ever after so we can move on to new stories and characters with their own histories and adventures. Maybe if they had just stated that O’Neill and Carter had retired and the SGC had been rolled into a new command structure it would not nag at you. The military does this sort of thing every ten years or so it is about time that the SGC was folded into the Space Command or some other new planetary defense command.

I guess they can do a movie that raps up all the lose ends from SG1 and SGA but they should have done that when they knew the shows were ending.

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