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ORIGINAL FICTION: "Laodicians (Conclusion)" By Republibot 3.0

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PLEASE NOTE: This is part two of the story. Part one is online here: http://www.republibot.com/content/original-fiction-laodicians-part-1-rep...

Lev let out a long sigh, and sat down. “That’s a lot to take in, Galina,” he said.
She didn’t notice him, and just kept talking, “We’ve got a fourth epistle from John, but there’s nothing particularly substantial in it, nothing more than Third John. Oh, hey, we’ve got an early draft of John’s Gospel with John’s First Epistle attached to it as a forward! It’s been speculated that it was originally an extended introduction that broke off under its own weight, so to speak, and began to circulate independently. In any event, we’ve managed to recover the missing couple of lines at the end of First John, the stuff after “Guard yourselves from Idols, dear children,” it’s not too impressive, though. Of course we weren’t expecting much there. We’ve now got a third epistle from Peter, and a second one from Jude, and three more from James - no longer any debate about him being Jesus’ brother, by the way - and it seems there was a lot more strife between the Jewish and Gentile wings of the apostles than we suspected.”
Lev looked a little pained, a little white.
“Oh,” Galina said, “We know who wrote Hebrews!”
“Who?” Lev asked, his voice thin.
“Barnabas! Better still, we finally know who Barnabas was!”
“Who was he?”
She wasn’t even pretending to listen, she just rattled on, “We’ve got an epistle from Andrew! We’ve got an epistle that Thomas sent back James from Edesea that is obviously the root of the King Abargus legend, we’ve got Q! We’ve got the freakin’ Quelle! We’ve got the mother f-”
“Stop,” Lev whispered.
“-in’ Quelle! We’ve got…”
Lev got up, walked calmly over to her, grabbed her by the shoulders, looked her in the eye, and plaintively said, “Stop.” She stared at him quizzically. He leaned in, and put his forehead against hers, and very, very quietly, he said “Just stop.” Then he let her go, and stepped back over to the stool.

“Do you believe the Bible?” he asked.
“Of course I do. Everyone does,” she said.
“Do you believe the way you did a couple weeks ago?”
“Of course I do! Of…well…yeah, I guess so. I don’t thi…what’s your point?”
“When I was a kid, my brother took the Bible completely literally, much like our tight-assed friend Bubba does,” Lev said.
“Actually, Bubba doesn’t…”
“Shut up, please,” Lev said. “He - Steve was his name - he had some behavioral problems, and he was able to keep them in check because of his faith in God. He was kind of left brained, though, so there was an ongoing conflict between faith and reason. Eventually, he realized Evolution was true, which meant that Genesis wasn’t true, which meant there wasn’t a God and nothing he believed in was true. It was rough to watch. Rougher still when is…problems came out. He’s spent half his life in jail.”
“That’s nonsense. The Bible doesn’t have to be taken literally, when viewed as an extended series of metaphors…”
“Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, that’s the way I read it, too, Galina, but not everybody is me. Not everybody is you, either. There’s a whole lot of Steves out there. This is going to hurt them.”
“No it’s not!”
“I promise you, it is. I’ve been thinking about it a lot.”
“But this is the truth,” she said.
“I’m not arguing that, but is it news that’s fit to print? Look, you know and I know that we evolved, yes? So why didn’t God tell Moses? Why didn’t He tell Isaiah? Why didn’t Jesus give a lecture on the Big Bang?”
She just stared at him. He continued, “Obviously because they wouldn’t understand it. It wasn’t that all that stuff wasn’t real, it’s that it wasn’t relevant to their lives, it was needlessly confusing, and it didn’t really have anything to do with their salvation. So He let it slide, or at least that’s why I assume He let it slide. I wouldn’t presume to speak for God.”
“Very humble of you,” she said.
“Yeah, unusual for a reporter, I know. I’ve been looking into it. There’s a theory that the Gospels were each written by multiple authors?”
“Yeah! Well, not really a theory anymore, and that goes for Luke, too, we’ve got a complete set of the travelogue material the author culls from whe…”
“Again: Stop,” he said. “Discussing the process whereby the Bible was written makes it a little too human, and raises the possibility that mistakes were made, which casts doubt on faith.”
She just

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Thanks for noticing

>>True, but you couldn't have stopped her. Just fucking try to talk to someone whose actions have led to someone else splattering her own gray matter all over their office and tell them that they're doing the right thing.<<

Exactly right. Thanks for noticing. My characters tend to drive themselves. I didn't intend for her to get so carried away that she lost track of the human aspect when I started writing, and I didn't really intend for her to get so carried away with her own guilt that she once again lost track of the human aspect of burning the stuff. I really had no control over her. I was surprised when Kelly showed up again and killed herself, too.

I don't really plan these things out, just jump in and swim until I hit the side. Lots of times it doesn't work. This time, I think it did, though the first half is a little over-expository.

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Not happy, just completely goddamn inevitable

>>>>
In any event: it is *not* a happy ending. It's about a door closing permanently. Up to this point, change was still possible, after this point, it's not. That option, preserved for 2400 years, is now lost. Forever. Even by wanting to preserve the status quo, she screwed it up.

Not a happy ending at all.
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True, but you couldn't have stopped her. Just fucking try to talk to someone whose actions have led to someone else splattering her own gray matter all over their office and tell them that they're doing the right thing.

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Bronze age ideas

>>I read the book of Jasher once. I thought it was quite interesting until it got to the 12 sons of Jacob. Then it seemed to turn into a Baron Munchausen type of listing of their feats and wasn't so good anymore. The OT posits a 6,000-year-old world, and yet it's mostly silent on the first couple of millennia, which would have been half of the world's history by the time it was compiled. Jasher fills in some of those holes.<<

The problem with the Old testament is we are taking a badly translated bronze age manuscript and trying to make it fit into the modern era. One of the feelings I always had was that the New testament was not only for the none Jews of the world but was an updating of the info people needed from the old.

Some of the old laws for example where not needed anymore in Jesus's time and he said as much. But there was still good info in the Old Testament and he referenced those parts.

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It's not an entirely unjustified opinion.

I guess you're right.

This gets back into the religious SF story idea I mentioned to you. I don't have the literary ability to make it come out the way I'd want it to:

Respectful but thought inspiring.

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Likely

>>The only people who have the sheer gall put their words in God's mouth are usually screaming liberals who want to borrow some authority to put behind their own pet theories.<<

You mean like Science Fiction writers?

I've never actually written any religious SF, but I've written a lot that involves religion 'cuz I think it's interesting, and I think it's a topic not often covered. It was a taboo for the longest time. Most EXTREME Fundamentalists *HATE* SF outside of the "Left Behind" books, and of course most leftists can't stand any religion in their stuff at all, and if it turns up, it's strictly to take a dig at it. This, of course, feeds the extreme fundamentalist dislike of the genre: "It only exists to make fun of our Lord."

It's not an entirely unjustified opinion.

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forgery!

hmm.. seems like you're right (re: book of Jasher). Oh well..

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>>True, but you probably only knew that because you know me.<<

Not really.

The only people who have the sheer gall put their words in God's mouth are usually screaming liberals who want to borrow some authority to put behind their own pet theories.

Like the Westboro Church protesting at military funerals.

I *know* you don't fit into those categories, but the odds are against anyone of that ilk writing such a biblical story.

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Speculation

>>It seemed to me that Bubba does reveal what's contained in Laodicians--at least the "scandalous" bit.<<

Well, I couldn't just let it be a total tease, right? I had to throw something out there to make it seem real. I'm not going to speculate about God or Doctrine for obvious reasons, so I decided to throw in my own personal theories about Paul, which have the advantage of being obscure, internally consistent, and mildly shocking.

>>I read the book of Jasher once.<<

No you didn't. It's a lost book. Mentioned twice in the Old Testament. There's an 18th century forgery, though, which most people think is the real thing. Nuts. I should have picked a more obscure lost book. Maybe "Iddo the Seer?" Nuts.

>>The OT posits a 6,000-year-old world, and yet it's mostly silent on the first couple of millennia, which would have been half of the world's history by the time it was compiled. Jasher fills in some of those holes.<<

So do the books of Enoch.

The theory is that there used to be quite a bit of legendary stuff set between the fall and the flood, and the OT occasionally makes reference to it, but that it was lost over time, or simply cast off as beneath the dignity of scripture over time. Debate about the Hebrew canon continued well into the Christian era, and the Dead Sea Scrolls give us reason to assume there was some substantial variation in what constituted scripture in the different denominations. And theology: The Sadducees didn't believe in an afterlife, for instance. The Samaritans rejected all scripture *excepting* the Pentateuch.

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I thot it did

It seemed to me that Bubba does reveal what's contained in Laodicians--at least the "scandalous" bit.

I read the book of Jasher once. I thought it was quite interesting until it got to the 12 sons of Jacob. Then it seemed to turn into a Baron Munchausen type of listing of their feats and wasn't so good anymore. The OT posits a 6,000-year-old world, and yet it's mostly silent on the first couple of millennia, which would have been half of the world's history by the time it was compiled. Jasher fills in some of those holes.

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But only 'cuz

True, but you probably only knew that because you know me. Reading it cold, it might have seemed edgier. I'm actually *really* interested to see how people take this one. It goes in an unusual direction.

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I figured it would endanger the ending...

Yeah, I figured my suggestion would change the entire tone of the ending. But, as I said, that's how *I* would do it. Not the way it should be done.

On the other hand, I have to say, I knew the scrolls were going to be lost again somehow. I didn't think you were going to start putting words in the Mouth of God, by revealing your vesion of the book of Laodicans nor were you going to have God end the universe like Clarke did in "9 Billion Names of God."

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I'm really not

I'm really not even remotely a scholar, just curious. Dilettantism at its finest. I'm good at cocktail parties and blogs, but my waters don't run much deeper than that.

The reason it ended the way it did is because it needed to have the sense of a door shutting, and not opening it up again. For better or for worse, she's making a choice for everyone that comes after her. For the record, *I* think she's making the wrong choice, but I'm deliberately not telling people how to feel about it. Everyone should take it in their own way.

For what I was trying to do, putting it in a time capsule would completely betray it. If you make X discovery and then put it back in the box, there's really no point to the story, it's not even really a story, just an episode of no real significance. What she did cost Kelly her life, and what she did, ultimately, cost her her own life as well, though not in the same fashion.

Basically, this story is about several things:
* How easy it is to collapse the circus tent of a person's soul once you start screwing around with the tent-poles.
* How much those tentpoles also support society
* How people's first reaction to a change in any uncontested basic fact of life is spastic fear, followed by spastic anger, followed by spastic hatred
* How religion isn't so much about literal truth as it is about meaning
* How giving solid food to babies just because you happen to like solid food isn't wise

and a bunch of other stuff, too. I'll be the first person to admit I don't understand every nuance of everything I write. It's all pretty extemporaneous with me, I just get a moment of inspiration, and then it gushes out with me only barely being in control. I just trust my subconscious to not get too far off track. If I analyze it too much while writing, it just falls apart. (A friend called it "The writing equivalent of performance art, and about as useless"). This whole story took about 12 hours from "Holy crap, *there's* an idea no one's ever done before" to "The End." And I've got the typographical errors to prove it. So any other meaning you're willing to bring to it is very likely in there, and I'm just not aware of it yet.

That's why I'm a feedback whore. It's not that I want people to tell me I did a good job (I frequently don't do a good job. Draconian Sunset is dredful), it's just that others tend to notice stuff I didn't realize I'd put in there.

In any event: it is *not* a happy ending. It's about a door closing permanently. Up to this point, change was still possible, after this point, it's not. That option, preserved for 2400 years, is now lost. Forever. Even by wanting to preserve the status quo, she screwed it up.

Not a happy ending at all.

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You're the biblical scholar.

I'm very much not, as would become very obvious if I tried.

If it were me, I think I would have ended the story differently. After all, if God had a hand in their becoming hidden, his hand would have been involved in their being revealed at this time, or even preserved in the first place.

If it were me, (and I never could write a story like this as I'm no scholar on the subject) I would have had Galina tossing them into a small capsule on her way out of the system. That way, if God wanted them revealed at a time when mankind was ready for them, it would be in his hands to let the capsule be found.

Sort of along the lines of the closing of the movie version of 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, "This too shall be revealed, in God's Good Time..."

Unfortunately, this also sounds like a ripoff of a Hippy-SF movie I hate: "Silent Running"

But, this is your story, and that sort of ending would probably undercut what you're trying to say.

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Oh, they've been released. I've got 50 of 'em in a bound volume on the book case behind me. There's a facsimile version of the entire collection that's available that came out about 15 years ago, though it's amazingly expensive.

What basically happened with the DSS was that the whole kit and kaboodle was turned over to an international consortium of scholars from a whole bunch of different churches, universities, and even religions, all of whom immediately fell to infighting and territorial squabbles. Their only real point of agreement was "whichever one of *us* this belongs to, it definitely doesn't belong to outsiders!" So they did some early quick-and-dirty translations of some non-controversial passages - mostly stuff that was already in the Old Testament - just to make everyone feel good, and published that.

Then they got into translating the more interesting sectarian stuff, but, alas, strife between the groups cropped in, as well as personal bias as to context and stuff. We still don't know *for sure* when the stuff got there. Might've been the 1st Jewish war. Might have been the 2nd Jewish war. Or both. Or neither. Or earlier. In general, evidence supports 1st war or earlier, but in fact the trove may have simply started earlier and been added to for a long time. Thus we lack some historical context that would make sense of it.

Also: Much of the stuff in the scrolls - the jargon, the allusions, etc - was unique to the now-extinct essenes. Who is the Teacher of Righteousness? Why are they so obsessed with calendars? What's with their baptism rituals? Were they, in fact, related to early Christianity? (No evidence, but that was the automatic assumption, and it's still widely taught *Despite* there being no evidence. It's not even a particularly likely guess.) What's this whole "Light vs. Darkness" thing? We understand the words, but it's like Sonnet 18 when you don't know what "Summer" is referring to (Is it an actual summer? A metaphor? A hippie chick with an unfortunate first name?).

This led to a *lot* of giddy speculation and sloppy scholarship with crazy theories like "The Teacher of Righteousness is Jesus" or "Jesus is imitating the Teacher of Righteousness" or the crazy dual-messiah theory based on a so-sloppy-as-if-to-be-drunk misunderstanding of some passages, or - my own personal favorite "What'chu'talkin'bout, Willis?" example - the idea that Jesus (Who, again, does not appear to have been connected with the DSS group at all) was leading some kind of magic mushroom cult.

Then, on top of all this, there was just the normal bureaucratic entrenchment of the sort that results in more than 100 pounds of moon rocks from the Apollo missions never having even been uncrated: Scores of the scrolls were never translated at all! In the late 80s this bottleneck got so bad that a representative of the consortium said, "They won't be translated in your lifetime, just deal with it."

At which point, Dr. Robert Eisenman and several others took matters into their own hands. They somehow came into copies of high-quality photographs take of ALL the scrolls during the initial digs and conservations, translated the whole megilla in less than 18 months, and published the entire collection, along with the photographs and the full text in English and Aramaic.

The consortium was beyond FURIOUS, but also increasingly irrelevant.

There is, however, nothing particularly shocking or 'forbidden' in there. It's all very interesting: the detailed notes and theology of a forgotten, extinct, fairly important sect of Judaism, but nothing "We were not meant to know" by a longshot.

Personally, I think the Nag Hamadi codices are way more fun. I've got that whole collection. It's not as long, and, I dunno, I've just got a thing for Gnosticism. It's my favorite heresy. (And I've taken the time to comparison shop!)

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Interesting Twist on Frankenstein:

"There are some things man was not meant to know"...

I always imagined it was something like this for why they never released the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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