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MOVIE REVIEW: Green Lantern

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Green Lantern is amazing. That's it, that's my entire review. Green Lantern is amazing, great and good even. It's probably the superhero movie closest to the comic book counterpart ever made. Go see it. Right now. Turn off your computer, go see the movie, then come back. I'll wait.

Back? Wasn't it great? Now then, since that silliness is out of the way, Green Lantern has been getting just completely hammered by critics all across this great nation. Sure, most or all of them are liberals so their opinion doesn't really count, but I thought it would be fun to go a little different direction than the straight and (mostly) spoiler free road I usually take on movie reviews and actually do to these critics what they're doing to movies and the filmmakers who worked so hard to make them. Basically, I'm going to dissect their reviews, show them to be the snobby and ignorant morons we all know them to be, dash their hopes and hopefully make them cry. And I'll explain to you why they're completely wrong. First off, most of the criticism is aimed at material taken straight from the comics, and not the fault of the movie. I couldn't find the review again to cite who it was and which publication they wrote for, but yesterday I read a review where the reviewer was complaining that the giant fist Hal Jordan makes while in a bar fight is more at home "in a cartoon that a motion picture." Are you kidding me? That's the whole point of the character. His ring takes things from his IMAGINATION and makes them real and useful. This same cretin also hacked on the giant Hot Wheels ramp GL makes to save a crippled helicopter (a scene which is an obvious nod to Richard Donner's Superman). Um, yeah, that was cool.

First off we have some quotes from Dana Stevens of Slate Magazine:

"Even by the standards of the current run of mediocre comic-book movies, this one stands out for its egregious shoddiness. Its characters, dialogue, and pacing recall a destined-to-be-canceled Saturday morning cartoon from the early '80s or possibly an extended Hasbro infomercial. "

First of all, we already know from your first sentence that you don't like comic book movies and are already convinced it's a waste of your time. The truth is, it's way cooler than the cartoons of the 80's (which were awesome anyway, you twit) and thus, your opinion is already invalid. But wait, there's more!

"His ex-girlfriend and fellow pilot Carol (Blake Lively) gives it to him straight: Hal is an immature, irresponsible twit, perhaps due to unresolved grief over his pilot father's untimely death. (Are there any superheroes with unproblematic fathers? Caped crusaders who just call their dads on Sundays to talk sports?)"

Yes, John Byrne's Superman has a great relationship with his father. They do all the stuff you just asked about: talk sports, Superman regularly flies to Smallville to ask his Dad for advice, and such. Also, the period goes outside the parentheses. What you have in parentheses shouldn't be a separate sentence all its own, that's the point of the parentheses. And you're a professional? You get paid for this?

"There's the abovementioned Parallax, a city-block-sized galactic invader who's sort of an ash cloud in the shape of a fanged octopus. (I'll grant the movie this: Parallax's animated swirling smoke-tentacles look pretty rad.) "

Oh, look, you did it again. Again, the period goes OUTSIDE the parentheses. Also, "abovementioned" should either be two separate words, or hyphenated. Please, if you're goint to accept money for writing, try to pay attention to the rules of spelling, punctuation, sentence structure and grammar we've all agreed to.

Next we have some mindless drivel spouted from Claudia Puig of USA Today (a newspaper I don't read anyway). ATTN DANA: see how it's done?

"The action switches to Hal (Ryan Reynolds), a hotshot fighter pilot. We find out, via intrusive flashbacks, that he's scarred by witnessing the plane crash and death of his pilot father."

He's a test pilot, not a fighter pilot. Did you even watch the movie? Come on, you can tell me. You stayed home to watch Sex in the City dvds, didn't you? As for the intrusive flashbacks, I am forced to agree. That isn't

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>>>The point of the book was that even when a human (Decker) is a prick (Do I need to apologize to the Prez) we are better than the androids because humans have empathy for all life which is what makes us human in the first place.<<<

There's that scene in the book where the replicants ("Andys" they're called in the novel) are pulling the legs off a spider one by one and laughing...the movie is much more nebulous about whether the Replicants are good or bad. In the end, they're 'just folks,' and I think we're supposed to see them as tragically oppressed. There's a moral ambiguity there that works, and there's some of that in the book as well, but the book is pretty clear on the fact that the Replicants/Andys are *bad.* It's not immediate or in your face, but they're just creepier and creepier the more you see of them.

In his 1967 notes on how he'd like the movie to come out, he's really clear on this. Also, he wanted the "Rachel" and "Zhora" characters to be played by the same actress (Grace Slick!) since they're the same model of sexbot in the book.

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I don't think it'll be the last

Yeah, I've seen the International Cut a couple times. I've not seen the workprint. How different is it from the other versions? In any event, even though "The Final Cut" is out, I don't think it'll be the final cut. Maybe the final official one, but there's just *so* much stuff they shot and never used.

>>>I like the Final Cut, but like I said, I miss the narration. I wish they'd have put that back in<<<

I agree it needs the narration, but I don't think it needs the narration the original version had. That was stupid. "I don't know why he saved my life." What, were you not paying attention? He just *TOLD* you why he saved your life.

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>>I just noticed that my previous comment didn't post and my last comment doesn't make sense without it. Basically, all I said was I miss the noirish narration the original cut had. It was sort of Phillip Marlowe in the future. It fit the movie.<<

You are right but one of the things the narration does is make Decker less of a tool than he was in the original book. Without the narration the movie is darker in tone and Decker is less sympathetic which is what I believe PKD wanted.

The point of the book was that even when a human (Decker) is a prick (Do I need to apologize to the Prez) we are better than the androids because humans have empathy for all life which is what makes us human in the first place.

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I just noticed that my previous comment didn't post and my last comment doesn't make sense without it. Basically, all I said was I miss the noirish narration the original cut had. It was sort of Phillip Marlowe in the future. It fit the movie.

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While those are the 3 official US versions, there are actually 5 completed versions of the film. In addition to the 3 you mentioned there is also the International Cut, which was the theatrical print that was sent overseas (Supergirl had an extended theatrical cut as well) and there was the original workprint, which is normally never intended to be seen by anyone but the director and the editor. All 5 versions have been released on blu ray in the US (I know because that's the set I have). I like the Final Cut, but like I said, I miss the narration. I wish they'd have put that back in

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There's actually *Three* versions: The 1982 theatrical one, the 1992 "Director's Cut" (Which wasn't actually a director's cut, since Ridley had nothing to do with it. It was in fact a Producers Cut.) and the "Final Cut" version in 2007.

Of them, "Final Cut" is far and away the best, with a few scenes and dialog trimmed, a few things expanded, the effects cleaned up, and one scene completely re-filmed. They're mostly subtle changes, but they add up to a big difference.

I totally agree Ridley missed the point (He admitted the book was too hard for him to understand, so he never finished reading it), but as the script was already fixed before he came in to the project, and then that probably doesn't matter too much. He started hacking on it and went in his own direction. The important thing is that he brought his sense of what the real story was to the film. Basically his movie was inspired by the script which was inspired by the book, but none of them are direct interpretations, as I see it.

I recently read PKD's notes from 1967 on what he wanted the movie to be like. There was talk of making it back then, but the project fell apart.

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Director's Cuts and other crimes

I have the director's cut dvd and hated it when I first watched it and never played it again. Perhaps I need to rewatch it with more of an open mind.

A side note the director's cut of Blade Runner is superior to the theatrical release which is better than any of the TV edits.

Watching the two versions of Blade Runner is almost like watching two different movies the tone is so different. Unfortunately Ridley Scott missed the whole point of the original book. And he makes it worse every time he talks about this movie and the planned prequel. (Decker is a replicate what BS!!)

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Really? I actually prefer the re-cut version. I find the role of women in the movie to be the part that makes the big difference, it places Sheen and Brando's roles in more context and opposition. To me, anyway.

Also it's just trippy seeing scenes you've seen a hundred times and having them go in directions you've never seen before.

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>>While a very small percentage do exist, I don't think very many Director's Cuts are worse than the original movie. Most are just about the same. <<

Apocalypse Now has a directors cut that is near unwatchable to me; I see why the Studio had the added scenes edited out. The director's cut illustrates everything bad they said about Francis Ford Coppola when this film was in production it was like a Peckinpah production. A drug addled stream of consciousness with no point.

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>>I know it's trendy to say "Oh, the directors' cut is much better," and it actually is in cases where you've got an A-list director like Cameron or Coppola, but in general the studio is *usually* right to insist on the trims. They make mistakes - *particularly* with genre films they make a lot of mistakes - but for every "Wow, that's amazing" Directors' cut I've seen, there's a dozen "Man, this is terrible" ones.<<

Well, you went and pulled the "trendy" card, so anything I say now is going to make me look like an a**hole, but whatever. No one can accuse me of being trendy, the proof of this is that I'm a DC fan, when the trendy comic losers are all about Marvel.

While a very small percentage do exist, I don't think very many Director's Cuts are worse than the original movie. Most are just about the same. That is, the added or alternate scenes neither add nor detract from the story or overall enjoyment of the film. But they're almost always at least worth a look. Now, you can cut a movie so many different ways thast you lose sight of the original vision. Blade Runner, for instance. Daredevil is a billion times better in the DC than the TC. They cut out pretty much the entire story. T2, on the other hand, isn't any better in the Extended Cut than the Theatrical Cut. It isn't worse, but it isn't better. It's just a longer movie. The only thing I loved from the Extended Cut was the dream sequence with Reese. Everything else was just sorta meh. But, that wasn't James Cameron's cut either, just an extended one, and T2 was an amazing movie to begin with.

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I know it's trendy to say "Oh, the directors' cut is much better," and it actually is in cases where you've got an A-list director like Cameron or Coppola, but in general the studio is *usually* right to insist on the trims. They make mistakes - *particularly* with genre films they make a lot of mistakes - but for every "Wow, that's amazing" Directors' cut I've seen, there's a dozen "Man, this is terrible" ones.

Also, it's not *just* the studios that insist on cuts. Lucas cut the "Biggs" and "Jabba" scenes from Star Wars himself, Cameron regularly shoots scenes he knows he's not going to use as part of his process, Wheedon cut a lot of scenes (Unwisely I think) from his "Firefly" movie. In the 2nd re-release of Blade Runner, Ridley Scott cut a few minor things that hadn't really wanted in the films in the first place (Including one useage of the F-word)*

Take "Young Frankenstein," there's a half dozen scenes the studio wanted cut, and for good reason: None of 'em are funny. (Well, one of 'em is funny). "Apocalypse Now" clocked in at more than four hours, with one speech by Brando being more than twenty minutes long. No way you *can't* cut that. "This is Spinal Tap" came in at something like two and a half hours. I do think they over-cut that one, but I can understand it: It's a weird-concept comedy from an untested director with a c-list cast that just rambled and rambled, and had a homosexual subplot. Taboo in 1982. Comedies are generally 90 minutes, and this was almost twice the length they'd asked for. I think they over-did that one, but I do have to say a significant number of the cut scenes went nowhere.

*- In the case of Blade Runner, I'd really like to see the missing scenes just the same. There were a *lot* of 'em, and they've never been released in any format (With one exception), and evidently there were a *lot* of 'em. We see some glimpses in a feature-length documentary included w/ the 2nd re-release

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This is an interesting article from Cosmic Book News. It seems there may be a Director's Cut of Green Lantern on the horizon and that, similar to what happened with Daredevil, the theatrical version of Green Lantern was a version the studio hacked to pieces because the artists they hired to do the job couldn't be trusted to do the job right or whatever. I don't know why studios do this, but they do it a lot and it's almost always a weaker movie because of it. I liked Green Lantern a lot, and I liked Daredevil a lot, but I liked the Director's Cut of Daredevil even more, so I'm hoping there's some truth to this and WB sees fit to release this. I just hope the DC is released at the same time as the theatrical cut. I really hope they don't try to double dip on this one. I was annoyed when I bought the Hellboy dvd because there was an ad for the Hellboy DC in the dvd that said it was coming in 3 months. Ugggh!

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/green-lantern-2011-studio-cuts-...

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>>>As for Kyle and the GLC, I missed the Corps too but it was nice to shake things up for a minute. Also, Kyle was slowly rebuilding the GLC himself. He re-lit the central battery and resurrected the Guardians when he was Ion.<<<

True. I guess what killed it for me was simply that they'd done the whole "Corps is disbanded, the Guardians have gone to Pismo Beach to pick up chicks at the bar and smoke some weed and really try to get their (Enormous) heads together" thing before, and it's always an attempt to put the GL back in the box, limit his powers, make him an easier fit in the DC universe, blah blah blah. In short: It's a cheat and a lazy one.

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>>>Its like when they killed off superman to get there sales back.<<<

I was actually just gonna' point out the similarity to "Doomsday" thing but you beat me to it.

Anyway: yeah, Doomsday/Death of Superman was incredibly contrived since everyone knew to the month when they'd resurrect him ahead of time. Killing Hal was a bit less contrived (But only a bit) since he'd become the bad guy, *and* there were a lot of other GLs at that point. He was sorta' redundant. Give his style stories to John Stewart,and no one would notice. They coulda' (And shoulda') kept him dead.

But, hey, money is definitely a motivating factor. I hear tell that's why they made the Star Wars movies .

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>>Never cared much for Kyle, but didn't hate him. I just kind of didn't like that they were trying to rein the GL back, and turn 'em into "Just" a superhero instead of what they normally are. For that same reason, I didn't like the destruction of the corps (Nor did I like any of the other times when the corps was disbanded over the years), but I *Loved* the way Hal went nuts and they killed him off. That was, in my mind, just about the ballsiest thing DC ever did.

And they completely undid it by bringing Hal back from the dead.<<

I like it when they shake things up and don't keep telling the same stories. Geoff Johns, in refuting that Hal Jordan's time was over, likes to ask "Is Clark Kent's time over? Is Bruce Wayne's time over?" And to that I reply with a resounding "YES!" I mean, you can't really have a new Superman, but Batman can be anyone. Let Dick Grayson stay Batman and see what he does with it. Which they're doing, but I think this Batman, Incorporated idea is retarded. Wally made a great Flash, and when he was absorbed into the speed force I was hoping to see where Bart went with it. But they almost immediately brought Wally back and then immediately brought Barry Allen back on top of that. Barry's return kinda hurt. I mean, Wally West was the first teenage sidekick to actually fulfill the dream, and to take that from him was wrong. Geoff Johns and Dan DiDio just want to take the DCU back to the silver age and tell the same stories we've all seen before. It just chaps my butt.

As for Kyle and the GLC, I missed the Corps too but it was nice to shake things up for a minute. Also, Kyle was slowly rebuilding the GLC himself. He re-lit the central battery and resurrected the Guardians when he was Ion. They brought back Kilowog and John Stewart. They could have continued on that course and brought the GLC back and left Hal as the Spectre, which I liked because now he's trying to atone for the bad stuff he did. Oh, but it wasn't really Hal. He was possessed by a giant yellow lobster. I think they knew bringing Hal back and making Parallax an external entity was a dumb idea which is why they had the line in Green Lantern: Rebirth where Batman asks, "You expect me to believe this? That you were possessed?" And Hal responds, "I don't care what you believe, but that's what happened."

Also, Dan DiDio doesn't know the difference between Hal and Kyle so he just really doesn't deserve to be Publisher of DC Comics. Paul Levitz: fire this moron and make Jim Lee sole Publisher!

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>>>>>>>Thor is also not for people who want to see a superhero movie. It's for people who want to see a Norwegian dude who thinks he's the mack daddy to end all mack daddies get put in his spot and then whine about it for an entire movie until he finally learns to suck it up and get his frakkin' hammer back. <<<<<<
Your right Thor isn't a super hero movie its just a heroes movie. He's only a Superhero when he's with the avengers. Yes he wine during Some of the movie but learns to suck it up and be a man. he also come to learn that maybe he's not ready for leadership and what it means to be a decent person. Hey I guest that's what they call character development. Not some crow-bard plot about a man with daddy issues who actually puts those vision of death in his head. Instead it should have been about him not just facing his fear but also coming to terms with his father passing.Also Hal Jordan in the movie acts almost the same way he Thor does. He thinks he is a mack daddy, he's also childish, irresponsible, a wuss( that's something THOR is not by the way) and has daddy issues. The only difference is that its not blatantly told to him through worthless stale exposition. You can see that he's growing up finally and learning his mistakes through pain of thinking that he's losing loved ones and eternal a exile. The only pain Hal endured was the punch Kilowog gave him before ran off home crying that his feelings were hurt because he doesn't immediately have their respect.
Also it is true to the source material but its the writer and directors fault for not executing well. As said i never said it was Bad but its not good either its just below a meh...

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To be honest the only reason why they turned Hal crazy was because SALES were low and it was about to be pulled from the shelves. So DC in order to get it back up had to do something edgy and wa-la you have a crazy Hal Jordan who will just barely bring back your readership. Its like when they killed off superman to get there sales back.

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Hal vs. Kyle

>>>I loved Kyle's GL series. So much so that I was pissed when they brought Hal back. But that's just me. I'm sure most people would disagree.<<<

Never cared much for Kyle, but didn't hate him. I just kind of didn't like that they were trying to rein the GL back, and turn 'em into "Just" a superhero instead of what they normally are. For that same reason, I didn't like the destruction of the corps (Nor did I like any of the other times when the corps was disbanded over the years), but I *Loved* the way Hal went nuts and they killed him off. That was, in my mind, just about the ballsiest thing DC ever did.

And they completely undid it by bringing Hal back from the dead.

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>>>To also add some salt GL has never been that popular of a chacter until the 4 or 5 years. GL has never been a Batman,Superman , Wonder Woman or Flash property.<<<

I don't know that I agree. GL has never been out of print since Hal was introduced, it's always been a consistent seller, a GL is always included in the JL and the major team ups, and they've made it very clear that GL is the third or fourth most powerful hero on earth (Depending on who's counting.)

I think he lacks casual appeal for superhero fans because he's the most overtly Science Fiction of the entire DC pantheon. People who like SF (Like Sheldon and I) are drawn to him, people who only like overly-muscular guys in spandex but don't like Science Fiction tend not to like GL. And most fans probably fall in the take it or leave it middle.

But even if he wasn't popular until half a decade ago, what does it matter? Heroes wax and wane in popularity all the time. It took quite a while for Wolverine to catch on, and he's led four movies now. Wonder Woman was hugely popular once upon a time, and now she's not.

I think GL was the most logical choice for a DC film after Batman and Superman. It's also got the best hopes for a long-running franchise.

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Green Lantern Works on Earth

As to the subject of GL on Earth being boring, I disagree. Kyle Rayner almost never left Earth for the first 150 issues he was the main GL, and he was also the only GL after. Parallax destroyed the Corps, and I think that worked great. I loved Kyle's GL series. So much so that I was pissed when they brought Hal back. But that's just me. I'm sure most people would disagree.

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Thor is also not for people who want to see a superhero movie. It's for people who want to see a Norwegian dude who thinks he's the mack daddy to end all mack daddies get put in his spot and then whine about it for an entire movie until he finally learns to suck it up and get his frakkin' hammer back. I didn't hate Thor at all, but there was almost no reason for them to claim that it was based on the Marvel superhero. They could have made almost the exact same movie without getting a license from Marvel. You call SHIELD the CIA and you don't speak the name Donald Blake and there you are. No Marvel copyright infringement and you've got the same movie. It wasn't about the superhero.

Also, as I pointed out before, they've got an entire first act of the sequel to develop Hal and Sinestro's friendship. He earned Sinestro's respect in the first movie, that was as far as they needed to go with it. And as for the yellow ring, that doesn't mean evil necessarily. Remember, in this version the Guardians themselves created that ring. And if they do the sequel right, you'll see more of the GLC and it should take place 75% in space between Oa and Korugar. Just take Green Lantern for what it is. The set-up. That's all this movie is, and it's Hal's story, not the Corps'. The second movie will be the Corps' story. Read Green Lantern: Emerald Dawn. This is basically the Emerald Dawn movie. There's a lot of GL mythology. They really had to pick and choose carefully about what they wanted, needed and could show for this first film.

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Also GL earth stories are almost always boring when it on earth for one reason.....Its Earth. GL is about a galactic police force. Hence the word Galactic. That means aliens and weird planets with space ports. You don't see the human world in harry potter about 90-95%of the time because the wizarding world is more interesting same is said for star trek you see space that's more interesting. Also Hal is only interesting when he's in space on earth he's boring. To also add some salt GL has never been that popular of a character until the last 4 or 5 years. GL has never been a Batman,Superman , Wonder Woman or Flash property he's a B list hero. Plus why would it not be about the GL corps either. They are also what makes GL so interesting to read and watch. Plus if thats half your audience then that's half of what your not making in cash by not providing those story elements. Oh yeah Thor was good its just I don't think its for people who want nothing but fart gags and incoherent action scenes that lend nothing to the plot.

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Oh wait a min I just read your comment full why wouldn't you develop a villain when it give them pathos to become a villain. How do develop the core of his relationship with H'al if you dont show what comes before without adding depth

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Sinestro wasn't supposed to be developed into the villain. I'm assuming that is going to be his character arc in the sequel. I also see Sinestro and Hal's relationship being further developed in the sequel. I think what they're going for is to have the first act of the sequel be Hal and Sinestro, the second act Hal will discover Sinestro rules Korugar as a dictator and the third act will be the GLC vs Sinestro. I expect the sequel to be the grand space opera you hoped the first would be.

That said, I'm sure the audience was split between fans who wanted GL in space and those who wanted him on Earth. I, personally, didn't want to see a Green Lantern Corps movie, I wanted to see a Green Lantern movie with an acknowledgement of the GLC in the first installment. Pretty much the movie we got was the movie I wanted, and I can't be the only one. GL is a tricky character to satisfy the entire audience just because what a GL story is varies greatly from story to story, whereas what a Batman story is is pretty much always the same.

I hated Parallax too. The way he looked. I didn't mind that they combined Parallax and Krona into basically a single character, I just didn't like Parallax's visuals. And the toy for Parallax is the yellow lobster looking thing we're used to so I expected him to be that, but instead he was floating dredlocks. But whatever.

Thor is way more boring than Green Lantern. Thor was almost terrible. Almost, but not.

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Green lanterns not good either...

But it wasn't good either. The problem is that it kept us here on boring old earth instead of keeping us on awesome old Oa. It also fails to develop Sinestro as a villain when all he did was give speeches and look cool. The story should have been about Hal AND Sinestro not just Hal. It makes no sense that he picked up the yellow ring when it proved the green ring did fine in defeating Parallax. Especially sense it was only one Lantern. It should have gotten to the point were countless Lanterns were slaughtered by Parallax on earth trying to defend it. And at the end Sinestro and Hal Jordan should have beaten Parallax. But as the day is saved it is not enough for Sinestro because many of his friends and comrades were all killed to defeat this creature of living fear. At the end of the day it took to many planets and to many friends just many to win so he takes the power of the yellow ring and uses it to give his brand of order. plus since it should be about Hal and Sinestro at first Sinestro hates Hal because he has the ring of his best friend and feels its disgusting for it to be on a human but grows to eventually respect Hal.Plus he feels some guilt for his friends death. Hal would be the student and Sinestro his grudging teacher. Teaching the ends and out of the green lantern core. When all is done and Sinestro has the Yellow ring he should ask Hal to join him in which Hal rejects. Hal then who over the course of the movie conquering his own fear suggest that maybe Sinestro is not done conquering his own but instead substitutes by using it leaving Sinestro angry, cold and alone at the end. This should have been the movie not nearly two hour of watching a Hector grow a sack on his head or poorly designed runny space turd that's suppose to be the living embodiment of fear. Nor do I want to see Hal rekindle some romance on earth I want to see outer space I want to see other planets and I want to see exotic aliens. Another problem is Hal Jordan's origin story is boring. Heck it was just added some years back that his dad died that way. Just like most DC origin stories except for Batman and Supermans. Most stories began with some accident and then they got their superpowers. To were Marvel it almost always came with some tragic price or Achilles Heel that's just as tragic. Theses tragedies are often what pushes our superheroes personalities and gives them motives to do good.To state again this is not a great movie or a bad one its just bellow a meh...That means save your money and go see X-men: First Class or Thor.

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Hector Hammond Sucks Anyway

As far as Hector Hammond goes, I think they were just digging to find any villain who wasn't Sinestro, since Sinestro is being saved. Me, personally, I would have used Sinestro. I would have started the whole thing on Oa with Sinestro's trial and banishment, ala Superman: The Movie's opening, and ignored that Hal Jordan served with Sinestro. I probably would have attributed Sinestro's betrayal to Abin Sur instead of Hal Jordan and then had Sinestro swear vengeance on the GL of 2814. But that's just how I would have done it. Interestingly, Parallax was originally supposed to be Legion, why they changed it I don't know. Unless they're planning that Emerald Twilight movie I so much want to see.

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Green lantern Wasn't Bad

I finally saw it. It really didn't deserve the kind of reviews it got. It was true to the comic, and I can only surmise that the density and relative unfamiliarity of the mythology threw some people. In that respect, maybe they shouldn't have shoehorned in Hector Hammond in order to streamline it a bit, but again, it was pretty decent.

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Can't see

I never got a fever from it, but I've had the 'unable to open my eyes' thing on two separate occasions, and had to go to the emergency room both times.

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True Story

My oldest gave me pink eye when he was young. I was on a business trip and woke up in the hotle with a fever of 103 and eyes matted shut. I actually had to go to an emergency room.

This round hasn't been as bad. Still very annoying, though.

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Pinkeye: The Musical!

Yow! I feel for you, man! Pinkeye is terrible. It's been a plague house around here for the last three weeks, with everyone except me having something. A week ago sunday, I thought *I'd* gotten Pinkeye, since my lid swelled up. Turned out to be something else, and antibiotics kicked it's butt right quick, but I was freaking out because I *DO NOT* want to have Pinkeye again.

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Jiminey Crickets...

Haven't seen Lantern yet. The littlest one gave me pink eye on top of a bad cold. But on the bright side, that forced me to cancel a buisness trip, so I'm home. Should be able to catch it by the end of the week.

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Britt Reid

And that's where the genius of Green Hornet truly lies. You're not supposed to like Britt Reid. He's a colossal ass hat. But you like Kato so much that when he basically forgives Britt even after Britt was such a jerk to him, you can't help but not hate him too. And you buy the "brother" relationship. Anyone who has an older or younger brother can identify with this relationship. You may want to punch him in the face, but the minute someone else tries to do it, you've got your brothers back and in that moment you're Batman and Robin. Then, if your brother deserved to get his butt kicked, you do it because the jerk got you into a fight. Green Hornet was a fairly deep superhero movie, and I think that depth has been lost on most people.

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The Green Hornet

I'm not saying I didn't like it, I did.

I really liked the Kato character... the main character, no so much.

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Green Horrner

I liked Green Hornet. It was true to the original concept and it was a fresh and original take. Seth Rogen knocked it out of the park, both as writer and star.

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Green Lantern

Roger Ebert thought it was pretty good, and I bet he's a big time liberal.

I take it was better than The Green Hornet. I kind of liked the understated villain in that. You don't get a lot of understated villains...

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I'm a Guy sort of guy.

Yeah, I like Guy a lot. Well, I like the 80s JLA uber-Conservative parody version of Guy. Earlier versions were boring, and later ones - particularly when he lost his ring - were tedious and disingenuous. I agree he needs people to play off, but then GL's always been a team player to some extent, right? And guy was just such a breath of fresh air in the comics of the day, just no pretension in him.

In the other supers, the whole "We don't kill" thing has always seemed a little forced to me, kinda' like Major West saying "One of these days, Smith!" when you know full well he's never going to do anything. He can't. In the case of guy, though he never killed anyone, it seemed less fake. Why? Well, Guy never felt like he was in a situation where he *had* to kill someone, but ya' always felt like he *would* kill someone without hesitation if he felt it had to be done. My take, anyway.

The only time John Stewart has ever been done well was in the JL/JLU series. He was completely unlike the guy from the comics and, I dunno, I just really liked him. If they ever do him in the movies, I'm assuming that's the iteration they'll use. The JLU Stewart could definitely hold down a movie. The comics Stewart couldn't.

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Guy Gardner

I'm getting the impression you're a Guy Gardner fan. Personally, I'm a Kyle Rayner guy. I think Guy works best as part of an ensemble, like in the late 80's JLA where he can play off someone like Batman or Blue Beetle. And I don't think John Stewart was ever that great of a character. Justice League made him cool, but they said just about everything there was to say about him there. I'd like to see an honor guard spin-off with Kyle and Guy being partners like in the GLC comics. Sort of like Adam-12 in space

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Hal Goes Rogue, Rogue goes to Phoenix, Arizona

That actually would be the best way to segue him out of the franchise. Do three or four films with him as a hero, then a movie where he's a loonie and Guy has to take him down with the help of the corps. Then, Guy's the top-dog Lantern, despite the fact that he's sort of a jerk and no one likes him...that could be fun.

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Green Lantern Corps

>>I have to say, GL is almost perfect for a movie franchise. Do three or four films with Hal, introduce Guy or John or Kyle (Or even Jade) as a sidekick in the last movie, then when the actor playing Hal gets bored or too expensive, continue the series with the sidekick as the star.<<

It's also rife with spin-off potential. Like doing a GLC movie that never goes to Earth or whatever. Since they introduced Parallax in the film, I'm sort of hoping they do an adaptation of the Emerald Twilight story and showing Hal going rogue. That would be great!

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Franchise

I have to say, GL is almost perfect for a movie franchise. Do three or four films with Hal, introduce Guy or John or Kyle (Or even Jade) as a sidekick in the last movie, then when the actor playing Hal gets bored or too expensive, continue the series with the sidekick as the star. After 3 or 4 movies with him, switch the movie to his sidekick, then when you get done with him (or her, I guess) do a movie with that GL paired up with a re-cast Hal Jordan. Lather, rinse, repeat. You could keep it going for decades and decades. It could go longer than Bond. It could even be bigger than the Police Academy movies!

The only other franchise I can think of with this much long-haul possibility is GI Joe, which, given their somewhat decentralized structure, could easily run forever by rotating out characters. (And in fact, this appears to be what they intend to do in the sequel, with only three major characters returning, and the rest being *other* Joes)

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Mark Millar's a Douche

Yeah, I don't see this picture having a problem making money. The user rating on RT is 95%, so the masses like it. Mark Millar has said it is officially the worst comic book movie ever made (and even went so far as to clarify it as being worse than Batman & Robin, which is just stupid), but he's also said he'll probably see it again

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It'll be interesting to see how this performs at the box office.

It'll be interesting to see how this performs at the box office. It's got a $200 million budget (!) which is more than either of Nolan's Batman films, even allowing for inflation between their release dates and now (F'rinstance, "Batman Begins" cost $150M, which is the same as $172M today). So this movie needs to be *huge* to turn a profit. Basically anything below $400 million is spoken for, anything above that is gravy.

From what I can see, they've greenlit (See what I did there?) a sequel, but whether or not they go through with it depends on the performance of this one.

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Glad you like it

If I can get this head cold under control, I'll take the ten-year=-old to see it this weekend. He was intrigued by the trailer and loves aliens.

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