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My biggest worry when I was on my way to Iraq in 2004 was not that I would be shot at by, or have to shoot enemy combatants.

My biggest worry was that I would be witness to a war crime, committed by my own fellow soldiers, and be too much of a coward to report it and ensure that it was properly dealt with. My worry was that I would witness such a thing and hide my head in the sand because I would be fear the consequences for my family if I came forward.

Fortunately, it never happened. I witnessed many acts of incompetence and of people in the chain of command putting their own personal interests above those of the unit, but that's no worse than in most civilian jobs.

What do you think? When is "I was just following orders" an excuse for cowardice? Not only for military folks, but for cops, government employees, civilian employees, or any of us?

Is there any time when it is right to ignore a crime where an innocent is being victimized by someone in authority, and we have the power to at least report it? Does the fact we may fear repercussions against us mean it's OK to keep mum about something we know is wrong?

For most people, it's never as dire as war crimes. But many times people will see something going on at work that they know is wrong, but say nothing for fear of their jobs, or at a minimum of being bullied by the ones doing wrong.

A recent roommate told me how he helped a coworker put sugar in another coworker's gas tank. I asked, "Isn't that the guy [the victim] you just told me would never overcharge customers for their car repairs?" "Yeah," said my roommate, "but he was an asshole."

Which brings up another, related question: Is it OK to treat someone ill just because you don't like them or their lifestyle, or skin tone, or religion?

These are certainly topics addressed in science fiction. When they are, those stories become some of the more important ones in the genre.

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The answer is "no."

"The only thing evil needs to succeed, is for good people to do nothing."

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First off--thank you for your service to our country, 10000li.

While I agree in spirit with Mama Fisi's comment, I have to say that it's not always so easy to "do the right thing," if "the right thing" entails putting oneself at a real risk of retribution. While it is true that "there is no greater love than that a man will lay down his life for another," when the rubber hits the road, most people are a bit more self-interested, or at least more interested in self-preservation.

There are lots of places in this country where standing up or speaking out will get your house burned down, or your car windows smashed, or your dog poisoned, or even yourself shot at, beat up, or killed.

So when it comes right down to it, although it really is incredibly courageous, noble, and morally correct to stand against injustice, wrongdoing, or abuse, letting somebody else suffer is often preferable to risking your own life, limb, or property.

Now, as far as being in a position where you are "following orders" to ignore an atrocity or look the other way...I hate to believe that there is a culture in the military that permits or encourages such behavior, but it's happened in the past and it's probably happening now. The chain of command in the military makes disobeying orders far more difficult to do than in civilian situations,but corruption being pervasive throughout human bureaucracies, it can be hard to report unethical behavior in a superior whether you're working for White Castle or the White House.

Kids on the playground are discouraged from being "snitches" and it just goes on from there. I knew a guy who ran a "safe house" for whistle blowers--a place where they could hide while their legal issues were being sorted out, so they wouldn't face retribution from their co-workers. Just think about that--having to pack up and go hide in the country because you did the "right thing" by reporting company violations. And of course the most extreme example of this would be the Witness Protection Program, although those folks aren't always "do-gooders."

Following orders and overlooking atrocities doesn't have to be a corporate or military thing, either. A lot of people become so indoctrinated by their belief system that they can convince themselves that a rival group is sub-human and worthy of being exterminated. And by "belief system" I don't just mean religion, but also politics.

Sadly, this happens all too often throughout human history. And as Mama Fisi pointed out, genocide succeeds when good people do nothing.

And a lot of times, the good people get gunned down as well.

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There's also the instance where you try to stop someone from engaging in self-destructive behavior, and they tell you to butt out, that you don't understand them and you should mind your own business. It can be real hard to stand by and watch a train wreck, but life's too short to knock yourself out trying to help someone who doesn't think that they need the help.

I've got a friend who doesn't seem to realize he's on a downward spiral. Several of his other friends and I have been worrying about him for months, if not years. We're concerned that he's losing touch with reality. We tried the polite and subtle approach, but he ignored us, so the other day I confronted him, and the others stood behind me and agreed.

He said we just didn't understand, and that we were just saying things because we were under a lot of stress in our own lives, and he's perfectly fine and happy, thank you very much. At least he didn't try to hit us up for any money, like he usually does.

So what can a fellow do in a situation like that? Personally I've had done with him. I hate to watch him wasting his life, but there really isn't anything else we can do now, if he chooses to ignore the people who care about him.

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Then they came for me

and there was no one left to speak out.

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Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

I was going to quote that saying, li, but when I checked out the actual version, it talked about Communists and trade unionists as well as Jews. Given that this is the "Republi-"bot site, I figured mentioning Commies and trade unionists may not win a lot of sympathy. ;)

But yeah, if people turn a blind eye to injustice, they'll have only themselves to blame when it's their own turn for persecution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came%E2%80%A6

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