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INTERVIEW: Larry Niven

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Known Space is exotic. You’ve got the coolest, most original aliens. You’ve got Canyon and Silvereyes and Plateau and Jinx and We Made It and a bunch of other arresting marginally-habitable worlds, not to mention the Ringworld and the Fleet of Worlds. And of course there’s Harlequin’s Moon and Svetz’ version of Mars, and the Smoke Ring in your other work. One of the reasons I keep coming back to it again and again over thirty years is that your places feel like places, not just “Planet California, with an extra moon.” What drives this? Why do you feel it is that so few authors have an interest in a sense of uniqueness and place in their fictional locations? Do you feel location drives the social evolution of a people? Are there any neat concepts for worlds that you’ve come up with, but never really got around to using in a story?

NIVEN:
“It was raining on the planet Mongo.” Lots of SF feels claustrophobic, as if planets were all about the size of a village. It makes the storytelling easier for a lazy writer.

I like my planets big and various.

There were rules in DOLE’S HABITABLE PLANETS FOR MAN. Poul Anderson wrote articles on how to design planets; some writers were shocked, preferring a more poetic approach. I looked for the exceptions to Poul’s rules. Jinx was the first prolate spheroid in SF, and the variation emerged naturally.

Then if I get lazy, I only follow about six characters—and if I want six billion, I write with Jerry Pournelle.

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Speaking of which, will we ever see more of the planet Silvereyes? You used it in your story, “The Color of Sunfire,” but it still feels tantalizingly offstage to me. Is there anything you can tell us to flesh it out a bit? For instance, I get that it’s a water world, but what are the humans settlements built on?

NIVEN:
All I know about Silvereyes is that there are maybe five patches where Slaver sunflowers have taken over. I used Slaver sunflowers in WORLD OF PTAVVS and then in Ringworld, after drawing one in a math class. I don’t need to show Silvereyes again.

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Ah, nuts. I was hoping you might revisit it since you’ve revisited a lot of your old characters in the last ten or twelve years. People who’ve been on the shelf for quite a long time - Nessus, Beowulf Schaeffer, Svetz - of these, the most pleasant surprise was Svetz in “Rainbow Mars,” because he just felt spot-on perfect. It didn’t feel like it had been thirty years since you’d written the last book in that series, it didn’t feel like it had been more than a month or two since you’d used him last. Is it hard to recapture the voice of these older characters?

NIVEN:
I can’t speak for all my older characters. As for Svetz, I wrote five stories about him, then—I never stopped thinking about an orbital tower as the legendary Beanstalk. The tale didn’t get off the ground until I thought of setting it on Mars. Then, wow, the possibilities multiplied without limit.

I’m glad you found Svetz unchanged. Or amplified. He’s an easy character to write with.

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As your talents have gotten defter over the years, do you find there’s something you can bring to them that wasn’t there before? Is this what causes you to bring them out of retirement?

NIVEN:
Yes, I’ve learned enough to add depth to older characters. More to the point, I sometimes find more to say on the subject. I don’t want to be caught retelling an old tale unless there’s more to be told.

You didn’t mention Carpenter in ESCAPE FROM HELL, but he’s a perfect example. It was Jerry who kept thinking about the theological implications—and I had a wonderful opening.

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Speaking of Dr. Pournelle, you collaborate more than any other genre author I’m aware of. Just off the top of my head, I can think of about twenty-four or twenty-five books you’ve co-written, and I’m sure I’m lowballing that by quite a bit. That’s the kind of thing that non-writers assume is really easy - “Hey, let’s split the work!” - but having spoken with a number of different authors, all of them confirm that it isn't. It’s really, really hard. Far

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Whitman II: Armed and Fabulous

Well, I was reading the Whitman books in the late 70s in Jr. High, and I was reading 'em on my own, not assigned stuff. But, yeah, I think in general reading standards were pretty crappy. They made us read Shakespeare, and we all complained (including me), but I can't remember anything more complicated than that. Some kids had to read Don Quixote (not me), and some others had to read "The Once And Future King" (Again, not me). Mostly it was pretty weak.

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The changing reading standard

Wow they must have really lowered reading standards in the 80's because when I was in 6th grade they made us read 'Crime and Punishment'. This was in a Rochester New York public school my Catholic School days ended the year before.

Now it might have been the teacher because in the late 60's they let them experiment a lot. (In Rochester at lest)

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Whitman

I used to have a bunch of Whitman books, including the first-ever Trek novel. I still have my "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" one. I've sort of been driving myself nuts trying to find some of the kids anthologies like yours that I read in school. I was 12-ish so they were right on my level, even if they were 30 years old already.

There was a great one about a Martian who comes to earth, and rebuilds human civilization, which had collapsed in a war...another series of short stories that followed some kids and thier family further and further from earth, another with a martian animal named "Yank" because he had red, white, and blue fur...

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Everything I learned about science I learned from hard SF.

Not really! but SF is what led me to real science.

At my dad's house last month I found the first SF anthology book I had read as a kid - around age 12:

"Way Out" edited by Roger Elwood and published by Whitman - the same folks who would make little chapter books of your favorite kids comix characters of the day.

Here's the TOC:

Interior artwork by Dan Spiegle.

11 • Introduction (Science Fiction Adventures from Way Out) • essay by Roger Elwood
15 • The Lights of Mars • novelette by Raymond F. Jones
52 • The Face of the Enemy • novelette by Gail Kimberly
91 • Buck and the Gents from Space • novelette by Mack Reynolds
122 • A Matter of Choice • shortstory by B. J. Lytle
135 • Teddi • novelette by Andre Norton
166 • It's So Wonderful Here • shortstory by Bill Pronzini
176 • The Little Monster • novelette by Poul Anderson
207 • The Truth of It • shortstory by Barry N. Malzberg.

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style

I liked Asimov's nonfiction books, and I agree his style worked really well in those. I also liked his introductions to the writing of others ("The Road to Science Fiction" was a perennial). I just don't think it translates well into actual fiction. In other words, I think he was a very good technical writer, very educational, very imaginative for his time, a good scenarist, but I don't think he was much of a storyteller.

I rank him waaaaaaay above Clarke, however, in that Asimov recognized you needed to tell a story, which is something Clarke was never quite able to get through his skull. I feel Clarke lacked any kind of literary style as well.

I rank Heinlein above the both of 'em by a wide margin, since he told stories, and had actual characters in them, rather than just ciphers. That said, I've been re-reading a lot of Heinlein lately (First time in 20 years), and there's a lot of groanable stuff in there.

This is perhaps as it should be. The first generation of SF probably would have mystified everyone if it hadn't been a bit dry, since the basic concept was so new. The second generation probably would have lost everyone if they hadn't juiced it up a bit, since the basic concept was now so commonplace.

I like hard SF a lot, but I tended towards Bradbury and PKDick and Padgett, who weren't hard SF at all, but they really could write, and they were clearly having so much fun with it.

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I think I liked Asimov's

I think I liked Asimov's stuff when I was younger because I understood what he was going for. People have bemoaned his lack of literary style, but this is reading him wrong: his 'style' was to strive for clarity in all things. The task he set himself was to find a way to pique the audience's curiosity without losing them entirely in a morass of mystification. There's a significant difference between tantalizing your reader and just confusing them.

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Heinlein, Clark and Asimov

Clark as a must read because my 8 year old self saw him on TV with Walter Cronkite during the Moon missions. Once My teachers saw me reading Clark they guided me to Heinlein and Asimov which is what they read when they were kids.

Larry Niven I discovered in the sci-fi magazines in the 70's.

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Yeah, me too

Yeah, me too, I think. Who's your 'big three?' Asimov, Clarke, and Heinlein? Actually, I think I discovered him immediately after Heinlein. I knew of Clarke and Asimov, but found them boring as a nun teaching math, and tended to avoid 'em.

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Known Space

Niven was one of the first sci-fi authors after the big three I discovered when I was a teen and I have always enjoyed his work.

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