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EPISODE REVIEW: Stargate Universe: “Incursion (Part 1)” (Season 1, Episode 19)

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There’s a degree of parallelism between the three-part series premier and this three-part season finale. We’ve got most of the classic SG1 team turning up - Jack, Daniel, Sam - we’ve got the Lucien Alliance, we’ve got people traveling to the ship and things not going exactly as planned, and we’ve got problems with the air supply, and we’ve got yet another Icarus-like planet blowing up. Daniels’ even a cameo on a DVD, just like in the premier.

I kind of like it. I like the bookending going on here. There’s a very strong sense of a chapter being closed with a very definitive end, and one that makes me feel most of what we’ve seen this year was planned out before the cameras ever started rolling, rather than the rollicking ‘we’re making it up as we go along’ feel SGA had. (Not that that’s a bad thing mind you)

In a nutshell, Young kills Telford, then resuscitates him. This is the only way to get past the brainwashing he’s been in, though it nearly kills Rush in the process. They get the information they need, however, and Sam and the General Hammond go to attack the new planet. The Lucien Alliance dial the gate and jump through as the planet falls apart. Sam is forced to pull out, leaving two of her people behind (!).

Young was all prepared to vent the gate room, thus killing all the Lucians, but he sees Telford’s body, and can’t bring himself to kill his old friend. The Communication Stones connection was broken when they went through the gate. Telford is Telford again (And no longer brainwashed) and Rush is Rush again.

A firefight ensues, and Young’s people mostly lose, though it’s not definitive. Chloe is shot, and she and Eli end up in some as-yet-unexplored portion of the Destiny, way, way forward of the occupied section. We end in a standoff, the Lucians in the gate room with hostages - TJ (And the baby, of course), Riley, and four or five redshirts. Camille suggests negotiations, and Young agrees with her. She tries to broker a hostage exchange while Telford continues to act brainwashed so he can keep the Lucians’ trust and figure some way to make a move.

Eventually he comes up with a ‘flanking’ idea, and leads a team of six Lucians through a leaky corridor protected by the ship’s external shield. When one of the Lucians attempts to open the door, the entire shield, and evidently the whole ship’s electrical system, go wonky and the guy disintegrates. Irritated, Telford and Young exchange information, and Telford heads back to try the whole thing again.

Meanwhile, Chloe (Bleeding and unable to walk) is being carried by a clearly-on-the-edge-of-a-heart-attack Eli as they try to find their way back to the occupied section before their air runs out, or they dehydrate, or Chloe bleeds to death, or Eli actually has that heart attack, or they starve, or they freeze, or any one of a zillion other things that can go wrong.

As a show of good faith, the Lucians request medical supplies. Rush says they shouldn’t give ‘em, but Camille says they should. Young sides with Rush: they’re going to end this situation here and now.

The End

Colonel Young’s days of making bad decisions are definitely coming to a middle. He should have spaced the bad guys when he had a chance, and frankly I got the feeling Telford would have welcomed him. Telford is having some clear guilt issues. This is *deliberately* contrasted with Sam sacrificing two of her men to save the crew and the ship as a whole. For anyone who missed that point, Jack even points it out angrily at one point.

Best dialog:
Scott: “What the hell was that?”
Young: “What the hell was that, Sir?”
Scott was out of line questioning his CO, particularly after the CO had accomplished what he set out to do, gotten important intel, and saved a man’s life in the process. I presume this is simply to make his character seem human and likeable to the less bad-ass members of the audience, but it kind of hurts his character.

That said, there really was no reason Young couldn’t have told him the plan. Frankly, any good CO *would* have let his XO in on that, if only so he could deal with Camille. Clearly he’d talked it out with Brody beforehand, and Brody was solidly on Young’s side. If he’ll talk to a civilian, why not Scott? Particularly since he likes and trusts Scott.

The Lucians clearly have more info about the Destiny than the Air Force does. How did they get this? Do they have access to some Ancient repository of knowledge that the SGC doesn’t? I’m thinking that’s got to be it, if only because there’s no means of bringing masses of information back to the Milky Way. Pretty much they’re limited to what was in Telford’s head via the Stones, and just as clearly they had a plan in place months before the attack on Icarus. So how did they know how to make the keys they were using all throughout?

And what do they hope to gain from the ship? Once again, they’re stranded, they’re arguably in a worse situation than Telford’s people were, as they clearly have no food or other supplies, and, it would seem, a lot more mouths to feed. They can’t get home, and I’m not sure getting home was ever part of the plan, so what does the Lucian Alliance want so badly that they’d expend this amount of resources and time, risk war with earth, AND commit several hundred people to what’s effectively a suicide mission? There must be some really, really big MacGuffin coming up to justify all that.

Ok, timeline here, as best I can figure it:

1) Around April of 2008 Colonel Telford goes undercover with the Lucian Alliance. At some point after this - lets say six months, he’s outed and brainwashed, and starts working for them.
2) Around April of 2009 his undercover time is done, and in gratitude he’s assigned to Icarus, presumably he requested the assignment. He was to head the team that was actually supposed to go through to the Destiny.
3) September 2009 - Telford and TJ knock boots one last time.
4) October 2009 - Lucian Alliance attacks Icarus.

Why did they attack Icarus anyway? I’m assuming they hoped to neutralize the base and go through the gate themselves.

Evidently Telford and Young were really close, since Young is really unwilling to sacrifice him. “I’ve killed you once today, David, that’s enough.”

Evidently no one on the USAF side died.

Though I don’t think this episode was as good as the previous one’s “Everything is falling apart” dynamic, that’s acceptable as this is the intermezzo in the opera. Next week should be a bit more of a crowd-pleaser. I’ll also say that, given the overall candor of this show, I’m not absolutely convinced that some of these characters won’t die.

There’s a lot of questions hanging here: Who lives and who dies? If Young’s folks win, what do they do with the quite numerous Lucian prisoners? What the heck killed that guy?

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Far be it from me to suggest cutting into networks' profits, but there are a few ways to watch shows that don't involve catching the original broadcast. You might watch the episode a few hours late, but nothing like 8 days!

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I'm really having this love/hate relationship with Hulu right now over NBC Universal's policies for video uploads. It's really frustrating because it's happening across multiple channels. They hook you in with next day availability and then about half-way through the season they seem to be switching it to an eight day wait. So I can't comment here because I really don't want to read anything until after I've seen it. Grrrrrr. Sorry end of whining and rant.

@R3 Couple of things, I'm pretty sure that TJ is having Young's baby and not Telford. I also don't think that Young talked it out with Brody previously, I think that Brody has learned that despite his myriad faults, it's always a good idea to bet on Young when it seems he's doing something crazy. Though I do think that he should have laid it out to Scott previously, I have a real hard time seeing a full bird colonel remembering that he needs to explain his plan to a lieutenant especially in the short span of time that they've been on Destiny.
Also, yes he should have spaced the bad guys, but I think we're all forgetting that those keys came as a surprise to everyone. At the time Young was sure that they held the high ground which would have made it suicidal not to comply with his demands. I think he really was concerned regarding Rush and not Telford. I think that it is important to keep in mind that as good and as smart as Eli is, Rush still has him beat in quite a few areas where the ship is concerned which makes Rush probably one of the most integral parts of the crew, right up there with TJ (I'd place the two of them the most important members of the crew followed closely by Eli and possibly Scott and Greer for Young)

@Tomacoon I think the reason Destiny's people weren't expecting flash-bangs was because they really weren't expecting to fight. They had a plan, the plan involved evacuating the atmosphere of the gate room of air and then upon the return of air either bind the prisoners or corpse duty depending on how things worked out.

And just in general I have to say that I loved Eli's World of Warcraft shout out. Pure awesome especially since he apparently plays Alliance.

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Hot Lucian chick

Just a random bit of info that very possibly matters to nobody...I guess we'll not be gaining the hot Lucian Alliance leader chick as a Destiny crew member. The actress has a show, The Gates, that starts next weekend...looks like another vampires in the burbs show. I'm thinking that not many guys would mind being bitten by her.

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yeah, as it is, even if they

yeah, as it is, even if they shouldnt have expected flashbangs persay they should have expected go'aould technology including stun or other types of grenades.

related to that, it is interesting that the lucian assault team doesn't seem to be using any go'aould technology aside from the door unlockers (those look more go'aould than ancient tech to me, having that same kind of rounded art style)

biggest question, who/what is causing the problems on the ship....i tend to suspect a second incursion, a non-human one, which could add a very interesting dynamic both to the current situation and the next season.

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Oh, sorry

Oh, sorry, misunderstood. My bad. Actually, now that you mention it, since the Lucians were using earth weaponry anyway (Specifically American weaponry), they really should have had flashbangs.

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My question was why our guys

My question was why our guys didnt expect flashbangs, ie. why they didnt wear gear or whatnot to lessen the effectiveness of their use.

As for the numbers game, even if the Lucians have a large group, with control of bottlenecks the smaller force should have been able to cut them down even with a low ammo reserve.

It just seemed the Lucians were a bit too effective to be explained.

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Flashbangs

>>>Also, why didn't our guys expect flash grenades and whatnot? It seemed a little too easy for the Lucians to overwhelm our people, especially with our guys having the advantage of controlling bottlenecks points.<<<

Might not have had any. Didn't they say they only had like 78 clips of ammo back in episode 3 or 4? Basically it's what they had on them at the time, and since they were fighting an air attack when Icarus went blooey, flashbangs wouldn't be of much use.

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We seem to be having some problems with the comments, but:

There's about 75/80 people on the the Destiny already. How many Lucians are there? 100? 50? Impossible to get a solid number. About half the people normally on Destiny are military, though they've got serious equipment and ammo shortages. The Lucans probably have the advantage, but it'd be easy to blow it, waste their ammo, take too many casualties. I think they're doing pretty much what we saw: negotiating to distract our guys and simultaneously flank them in some way so they have no choice but to surrender.

"Venting the compartment" just means dumping all the air into space, like they did in Telford's cabin.

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Good questions all Tomacoon...I had the same thoughts while watching this ep. They had such a great plan right up until they didn't use it. I just watched it again to see if I could figure things out and did find something. Young told the Lucians that he would "vent the entire compartment to space" which would, I'm assuming, suck them all out into space. This aside, I still thing Young really blew it by trying to save Telford...this being Stargate, I think redemption is ahead for Young in some way.

Their inability to keep the Lucians from getting out of the gate room still has me perplexed. This was when I started yelling at the TV...it seems that they still had the advantage...I'm no military person but it was way too easy for the Lucians to grab hostages. You are right though that if everyone did the smart thing there would be no tension, no drama, no show worth watching.

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Though it would obviously

Though it would obviously have eliminated the whole tension of the episode, it occurs to me that they need not have vented the entire atmosphere from the gate room, just bring it to a low enough level that everyone in the room passes out, unconscious. Then, move in, tie em up, and you're done.

Also, why didn't our guys expect flash grenades and whatnot? It seemed a little too easy for the Lucians to overwhelm our people, especially with our guys having the advantage of controlling bottlenecks points.

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Well R3 the Leader chick might be a more fun person on her off hours. Or since they were not planning to leave at that time they may have not brought in the wives yet.

I would think that one way or the other that Telford is staying since they made such a big deal of Lou Diamond Phillips being on the show. (He probably made them sign a two year deal.)

The Puppeteer option could still be the plan, get to Destiny fly it home. Load the people you want to save leave again. Remember it could be a 20K year time table on the whole the Milky Way is doomed thing. (I hate to discard a good idea until I absolutely have too.)

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All good guesses

All good guesses.

The only one I'd say ain't gonna' happen is the "Puppeteer" thing, since they didn't bring any women along (Excepting the leader).

You know, we've all been assuming Telford will die, or Telford will stay on the ship as the new XO or whatever, but it just struck me that Young could die and Telford could take command...

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My SGU thoughts

The question on why the Lucian Alliance wants Destiny has two possible answers. One since they seem to have more info on the ship they may think they can fly the thing back to the Milky Way. Two they are doing a Puppeteer, they discovered that something bad is going to happen to the Milky Way and this is their escape plan or two B this faction needed to leave the Milky Way before the main Alliance zapped them.

As to what will happen with the Alliance people after Young gains control I bet they are going to do a Star Trek Voyager and have them combine under Young. The ship is going to enforce this because the guy that used the chair got uploaded into the computer that is why the Alliance solider got fried at the door the computer changed the force field to let in the max amount of radiation from the star they are near. Also that is how Eli and Chloe are going to get saved.

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>>>It only lasted a second, but including it showed the attention to detail, in both writing and acting.<<<

Yeah, I noticed. A great little bit of face acting there. I laughed.

>>Does anyone know if Telford is going to stay on board for awhile? If so, he certainly outranks everyone but Young, which could make for some interesting situations. He and Young are both colonels, right?<<

I don't know. I'm avoiding spoilers, which includes previews and any info about next season's cast, so I don't know. I have a hunch, though.

And, yeah, both Young and Telford are full colonels. "Full Bird" as they say. (As opposed to a Lt. Colonel, who wears an oakleaf)

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>>>if this is used in the future (unlikely, since it would destroy the icarus like planet they dialed from, not something a lot of people would be willing 2 do) as a way of saving people from getting stranded.<<<

Interesting point. I hadn't thought of that.

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>>>In earlier episodes of SG1, the offworld teams were regularly thrown through a gate, similar to this. <<<

They also frequently came out cold. Niven stated one time that if you teleport from wherever you are now to a point a hundred miles south of you, where the world is rotating faster, your body might process that extra velocity as heat. It's not enough to kill you, but it's energy that needs to be dealt with , and heat is generally an unorganized way to get rid of energy. Theoretically, if you went in the opposite direction, you'd lose heat in the transfer, which is kind of what we saw in early SG1, though that was dropped pretty quickly.

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Civilian authority

I thought it was really funny how when Camille stated that "in our world" the military is subservient to civilian authority, and the Lucian commander turned to Telford, sort of shocked. He gave her a "what can I say?" type of resigned look. It only lasted a second, but including it showed the attention to detail, in both writing and acting.

Does anyone know if Telford is going to stay on board for awhile? If so, he certainly outranks everyone but Young, which could make for some interesting situations. He and Young are both colonels, right?

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it also seemed like the lucian alliance dialing the destiny gate automatically brought the ship out of FTL.

if this is used in the future (unlikely, since it would destroy the icarus like planet they dialed from, not something a lot of people would be willing 2 do) as a way of saving people from getting stranded.

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Thrown through the gate

In earlier episodes of SG1, the offworld teams were regularly thrown through a gate, similar to this. However, that at some point Carter was able to tweak the gate's settings to compensate. As I recall, it had to do with the gate's locations having been last set thousands of years ago, and they'd sort of shifted slightly since then. A connection was still being made, but it wasn't as perfect as with the upgraded software :-)

I really really liked this episode--certainly one of the top 2 or 3 so far this season, IMO.

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Yeah, the Lucians have good tailors.

Yeah, the Lucians have good tailors. I think they probably get most of their stuff through one of those Longbeach leather shops.

Actually, given the wonky premise of the Gateverse, they very well *may* buy their swanky fascist biker duds in Longbeach: I noticed the Lucians were using perfectly normal human guns, rather than Zats or some other esoteric alien weapons. Why would they do that? I'd think that'd be much harder for them to come by. (Obviously the real reason is so the Destiny crew can use their ammo next season)

I think there's an interesting contrast between Young and O'Neil. O'Neil would have said something like "I'm going to save every one of those hostages," and he'd have done it. Young *thinks* he can do it, but he can't. I think they're deliberately contrasting the gleefull swashbuckling ways of SG1 with the brutish reality of SGU. We've seen this before, but I do think it's all building to a head, and I think Young will become a much better leader in the second season as a result of all this.

Young and Telford are oddly close, really close. Anyone else think it odd how gentle Young was with Telford after he revived him? I don't think there's anything weird going on there, but there was some major bond between them long before Icarus.

The thing I like about Eli is that he's a decent guy. He knows he doesn't have a shot with Chloe, but he goes way out of his way to do the right thing, even though it's obviously costing him a lot to do so.

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I heart Eli

So much great stuff in this episode...don't care...how totally adorable is Eli as he takes care of Chloe!?! I've transferred all if my Lost/Hurley love to Eli. No doubt they have him in uncharted territory so that he can stumble his way into the *whatever* that will save the day...or just allows him to be the wild card in the situation. Eli to the rescue! (if he doesn't have a heart attack) I love it...

I thought that the ship itself had something to do with the melting man...some sort of defense that the ship is mounting against the Lucians. They mentioned that the ship hadn't returned to FTL since the Lucians gated in so it seems that Destiny is aware of the trouble on board.

I'm having trouble with Young's decision not to end it when he had the chance. You are right that Telford would understand that Young was doing the right thing. It was such a sentimental choice and I don't buy it...he is putting more people at risk and I'm not sure he would do that just for one guy no matter how close they were. Maybe he just saves those guys who sleep with his wife? Haha! It is Stargate so redemption of some sort must be coming soon.

I'm also crushing a bit on that chick who leads the Lucians...she would be a great addition to the Destiny crew if they could manage it somehow. She knows how to get things done and look hot doing it!

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Droping 'em off

I think stranding 'em on a habitable planet is most likely.

The "Thrown through the gate" thing is never explained, but my hunch is that it has to do with a difference in momentum between the "In" gate and the "Out" gate.

Imagine you've got a gate on earth. We're whipping 'round the sun at 800,000 miles a day. Mars is traveling at a mere 663,000 miles a day. (Yeah! It's slower! Less massive, and further out, hence slower). If you gate from earth to Mars, it's not just a question of hopping from one room to another, it's more like you've got two paralell trains running alongside each other, and one is traveling 1500 miles an hour faster than the other. If you jump out of one train and into the other, the difference in velocity would squash you flat and dead instantly.

Now let's assume you want to gate from earth to a planet orbiting the star Vega: Our solar system is moving towards Vega at 181 MILLION miles a day! If you hopped from a train moving 800,000 miles a day to one moving 181 MILLION, you wouldn't be smashed to death, you'd be smashed to subatomic particles!

Obviously, then, the gates must have some method of compensating for that, absorbing the massive relative momentum, but there must be some theoretical upper limit, and I'd guess, given how far the Destiny is from the Milky Way, the gate simply can't completely absorb all of it, so you're still coming through as if you'd been thrown from a slow-moving car. Whenever they do a "Big Jump" like that, we see lots of steam shooting out of the sides of the gate, implying it's venting a lot of heat or energy or whatever, and is close to an overload.

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Keys, Eli on Subway

You also have to consider, how the video game Stargat had exactly the same doors and keys.

AND again with the whole being Tossed through the gate like effect

They probably had the same exact info.

It might be semi-right that the guy was absorbed into the ship or something. It is possible.

so glad James didn't get killed.

Oh yeah, Eli on Subway.

I think that once you take out the leader heading the invasion force, the rest of them would kinda just merge with the groups. That one guy Rush killed by stalling probably would have joined the group if that lady was killed.

And what they would do with the prisoners.
what they won't do:

send them back to MWG (milky way galaxy)

they could do:
-drop them off on first habitable planet they find

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