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BOOK REVIEW: “Harlan Ellison’s The City on the Edge of Forever, The Original Teleplay That Became The Classic Star Trek Episode

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Harlan Ellison is my hero. I just love the guy.

I’ve got no real illusions about that, mind you: I doubt he’d like me, I doubt it would take five minutes for me to run afoul of his famous rages, easily half the things the man has ever said piss me off, and I don’t even like a lot of his fiction all that much - but - my hero he remains.

Maybe I’m just a bit perverse, but I want my heroes to be *better* than me, you know? If it’s something that *I* can do myself, then it’s not all that remarkable that General Douglas MacArthur did it, and it makes him somewhat less of an inspirational figure in my life. I want my heroes to be inspirational figures, sure, aspirational as well (If that’s a word, and if it isn’t, it should be), but more than that, I want my heroes to be challenging people who are simply *better* than me in ways I can shoot for, but never quite get. I don’t want some kind of easygoing idol who tells me that I’m Good Enough Just The Way I Am, and that we’re Free To Be You And Me, because I know damn well that I am *not* good enough. I want someone who challenges me, angers me, frightens me on occasion, and goads me on to greater personal accomplishments, and yet is someone I can respect.

Harlan does that. In spades. He does his own thing, he is his own person, he’s sacrificed his life upon the altar of his own integrity, and - most remarkable of all - he does not lie.

Angry, petulant, imperious, enraged, justifiably murderous, or merely annoying as he may well be on occasion, He Does Not Lie. And I love him for that.

Just felt the need to get that out of the way before we get to the actual ‘review’ portion of this review.

This awkwardly-titled book tells the tale of how his much-maligned Star Trek script came to be. Rather than just another behind-the-scenes tell-all that actually tells nothing, this is a fascinating story of one man’s quest to tell a story that mattered to him, a bunch of other men’s quests to get a piece of that action and bask in it’s reflected glory, and one miserable old SOB who spent the next thirty years trying to burn the writer’s reputation down. It’s a good story, interesting, believable, human, and kind of weird, when you get right down to it - I mean, we’re talking about a script here, one episode from one TV show a generation ago - who even cares after this amount of time, right? Let it go! And yet Harlan, by his nature, couldn’t. That’s about as surprising as snow in winter, but what pushes it over in to weird is how many *other* people couldn’t let it go either.

It became a millstone - presumably one of many - around Mr. Ellison’s neck, and finally he decided to set the record straight. He does, and in the process this book becomes one of only two or three books about Trek ever written that are actually *worth* reading. In fact, I’ll go further: If you’re a Trekie, you damn well *need* to read this book. It will make you re-examine your devotion to the franchise, or at least its creator, and presumably re-examine yourself a bit in the process as well. As “The Unexamined Life Is Not Worth Living,” that’s always a good thing, right? So, seriously, Trekies - get thee to a library, and check this out! Now! Move!

Oh, I see…don’t want to challenge your preconceived notions? Ok, that’s a lot to ask of you. That’s fine. Why don’t you go watch the Song of the Day while the grown ups and I talk, ok? Thanks….

The book is divided in to three sections: Part one is a massive, massive introduction - nearly a third of a million words! - in which Harlan tells the story of how Gene Roddenberry approached him to write for the show, how the story evolved, and how it quickly fell prey to palace intrigue, and the legends that have grown up around it in the thirty years hence. Part Two is the actual original award-winning script - never actually filmed - and includes two separate treatments and a lengthy section from a later Rewrite that Harlan did himself. Section Three is a series of Afterwards from people who

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The Editing of Dog Days

>>No writer likes being edited I know I hate it but need it. It's a big help to have a story critiqued because I can't always see where its gone off the rails.<<

MOATMAI, who used to do "Max Headroom" reviews for the site here, is one of my oldest and best friends in the world, and a professional journalist. He offered to edit "Ice Cream and Venom," and I jumped at the chance. The first story he did was "Dog Days," which I'll be the first to admit is kind of a sprawling, unfocused tale. He went over it, said it had a lot of potential, totally got the story, so there's no question of artistic/editorial confusion, and then proceeded to list changes, in detail.

I balked at this, because some of them seemed too specific, some of them were technically wrong (A debate about how sound would travel on Mars, for instance, where I was right) but basically the bottom line here is that he was right 90% of the time, and where he wasn't, it was pretty trivial (Should "earth" be capitalized or not?). More importantly, he showed me some SERIOUS pacing flaws that I hadn't noticed contained in certain scenes, and a few physical scenes that just didn't flow right.

The process was fairly agonizing, and because I am inherently a d!ck, I took the manuscript away from him, claiming it was because of time constraints. In actual fact, it was simply because it was too painful for me to have my nose rubbed in my shortcomings, *EVEN* by a close friend, even when it was meant for my own good, and even when said correction was pretty gentle, respectful, and undoubtedly was making for a better story. So, basically, I done MOATMAI wrong, b!tchslapped him when he was trying to help me, and basically was an evil, betraying jerk.

In the process, I really hurt his feelings, and we didn't talk for months. I still feel incredibly guilty about that.

Later on, I realized that he really *was* right about everything, and I ended up using his notes to fix the story, and I gave him co-credit for editing the book, and, yeah, he was right all along. I also basically outlined this whole sad affair in the forward, just so anyone who reads the book will know what I did. I feel it's important to own up to these things.

I don't know if he's noticed it or not. For obvious reasons, we don't talk about my fiction anymore. But basically, yeah, editing is rough. I very nearly lost one of my best friends over it. That said, I have learned that it is *VERY* important, and when people talk about 'censorship' and 'editors ripping the guts out of my story' they are generally just being b!tchy little pretentious undergaduate lit majors with no clue. Seriously: most of the (unedited) amateur books I've read in the last four years would have MASSIVELY improved with a bit of editing.

Also: Mad shoutout to GinRummy, who is my go-to editor, and does a frackin' great job!

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Harlan is a great guy.

>>It all just seems a bit declasse to me<<

Not my life. Not mine to judge. I'm just explaining the situation given what I know about it. It's not how *I'D* have handled it, but again: it's not my story, and it's not for me to judge what's an appropriate response or not. And remember: most of the people who bring this up are Trekies who only know of him through this one episode, and who've never read his other work. They hear about it 5th hand, accept it as gospel, and propagate it. And they WILL NOT let it drop.

But we're concentrating on the negative stuff, and that's probably skewing people's views of Mr. Ellison, which isn't fair. In fact, he *IS* a very, very, very, very, very loyal friend. (We're not best buddies. We've never gone on long walks in the park and gazed deeply into each other's eyes and wondered "What's it all about, Sunshine?" But we've talked on the phone a good deal, written back and forth, he spent a year working on one of my projects just because he thought it had merit, he invited me over to his house once [I couldn't go], and he's publicly said we're friends several times. So I'm not claiming any super special authority here, but he *IS* a very good guy). He has a personal code of honor that he *will* not break under any circumstances. He doesn't lie, he doesn't drink. He works super hard. He's basically *still* a boy scout, and makes a point of doing at least one good deed of some sort a day. He feels its his personal responsibility to attempt to make the world at least a tiny bit better than it was when he got here. He has the strength of his convictions, and even though I disagree with some of those, I admire a man who walks the talk, so to speak. Despite being on the short list of the best, most important authors of the 20th century, despite his flamboyant personality, he's really not arrogant, and he's pretty impressed by stuff some other authors do that he doesn't.

He doesn't suffer fools or betrayals, both of which abound in life, he's got a quick temper ("Do you think I like being this way? Don't you think I'd like a little peace?" he says in a documentary when asked why he can't just calm down and take it easy), but the fact is he has always been kind to me, and I've never heard of *ANYONE* who does more for new authors than him. Seriously: He works *hard* for both author's legal rights, and for finding, helping, and honing the talents of new writers. EVEN ones he personally doesn't like, because he feels writing is an honorable profession, and whether or not you and he agree on some arcane point of politics or religion or whatever, he feels that if you've got talent and drive, you deserve to be read. If he can help, he will.

He's very loyal to his friends, he's very egalitarian - there's a funny story about him and a roofing contractor - and doesn't care what anyone's station in life is. And *MY GOD* is he a hard worker. Seriously. The man is in ill health, he's dying, he's not long to this earth, and you know what he's doing? He's busting his ass trying to make sure he can fulfill as many of his backed up contracts before he passes! He's that dedicated to his work! How many people take their job, their craft, their word that seriously?

Seriously: Forget what you've heard, and remember that in context, this whole "Trek" crap is pretty much just a dead dragonfly on the windshield of a much, much larger life: Harlan is a great guy. Harlan has always been a great guy.

Again, it's not for me to judge, but I think all the good stuff he's done more than outweighs a 40-year-old toothache.

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Editing and the ego

>>Even though I *UTTERLY* hate having my own stuff edited. Awful.<<

No writer likes being edited I know I hate it but need it. It's a big help to have a story critiqued because I can't always see where its gone off the rails.

>>Maybe people want to read about a feud that began before they were born, I dunno. The Civil War is still big business. One of JFK's mistresses just came out with a book about how she was Monica Lewinski before Monica Lewinski came along, so I guess this sort of thing does sell copy.

It all just seems a bit declasse to me.<<

People love inside baseball I know I used to read every inside politics book that came out. Remember conflict makes good drama even in real life.

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Turning the other cheek...

...doesn't mean mooning people.

Maybe people want to read about a feud that began before they were born, I dunno. The Civil War is still big business. One of JFK's mistresses just came out with a book about how she was Monica Lewinski before Monica Lewinski came along, so I guess this sort of thing does sell copy.

It all just seems a bit declasse to me.

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There is nothing quite as wonderful as money

>>$7k in 1965 would be the equivalent of $50k today, which would be over $65k/annum, and comfortably over $5k/month. Not an enormous sum, obviously, but not shabby by any means ... especially if toward the end of the 9 months, when he's just on set to verify proceedings, he could be thinking about and prepping for his next project.<<

During that same year, his only other sales was a "Man From U.N.C.L.E." episode, which was probably in the same range, price-wise. It was a good year for him. It's not really consistent work, though. Let's assume in today's standards he made the equivalent of $130 grand that year, that's fantastic! But it's not really consistent work. Prior to that, he hadn't sold a single TV script in 2 years, and his only screenwriting project - "The Oscar" - was a massive bomb that basically dashed the hopes of moving into movies. He had two sales in '68, one of which was a "Flying Nun" episode that I can gurantee didn't pay anywhere near $7 grand. Then from there he didn't sell another TV script for three years. Then two years without a sale. Then four years without a sale...

TV is a harsh biz. It devours content, it devours writers, it gives no promises, it gives no steady employment for most. It's a demon bitch goddess. The money ain't steady.

As Joe Straczynski said in his (Really good) book on screenwriting, "If you're getting into writing because you want to make money, forget it. Your average plumber in LA makes more money than your average writer, and with far less heartache."

(Figures courtesy of http://www.davemanuel.com/inflation-calculator.php)

Also, your calculation of $25/day (in 1960's dollars) assumes that he's working every single day for 9 months straight, including weekends, holidays, weddings, funerals, etc. Assuming an average of a 6 workdays/week, it's actually over $30/day. Assuming a 5-day workweek, it's close to $40/day.

But in fact, a daily amount is probably not really relevant. The more helpful figures are the monthly and/or yearly totals IMO.<<

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Speak ill of the living

>>But then the paid publishing industry's tanked, so if anybody ever made any money writing, they ought to consider themselves lucky.<<

Nobody *ever* made any money at SF. Seriously: take anyone big you can think of who were able to do it as their primary source of income: Bradbury, Heinlein, f'rinstance, and I can name ten or twelve heavy hitters - Pournelle, Ballard, Clarke, Asimov, Disch, etc - who have had to keep their day jobs. As Niven once said, at its peak, the SF Genre was never able to support more than three or four people. Everyone else who did it either wrote it as a sideline, or was already rich (As per Niven himself)

>>And assuming you *can* get a contract, expect an Editor to cut the guts out of your story. It's just The Way It Is. I'm not sure what some of these recent authors did to get contracts, but I've read some recently-written books, and they could have been penned by sixth-graders.<<

Look at it this way: if they hadn't been edited, they may have read like they were written by 3rd graders. I've had a lot of self-publsihed books submitted to me for review on the site in the last four years. I've read all of 'em. I've reviewed *two.* Why? Because I don't want to be the guy who says "Well, I know you've daydreamed of this since you were twelve, but your book sucks out loud, and you've got no talent, and should go back to your table-dancing career and give up your dreams." But at the same time, I can't in good conscience give a good review for a bad book, and believe you me, sooooo very many of 'em are bad.

I used to believe the whole artists "They censored my work! They ripped out its guts!" thing, but in the past decade, seeing DVD cut scenes that just didn't work, and in the last four years reading books that are unrelentingly awful, I've come to realize how important editing is. Even though I *UTTERLY* hate having my own stuff edited. Awful.

I am, by the way, *really* exited as I have just read the *third* amateur book we'll actually be reviewing on the site. It's called "Birdie Down" and it's actually pretty good. This gives me hope to keep reading other amateur stuff, because, frankly, I was getting pretty depressed.

>>Holding grudges for 40 years seems a bit ridiculous.<<

Eh. It's not my life, so I can't say. It's not yours, so you can't say. When Harlan wrote his "City" book, people decried him for speaking ill of the dead, and he said "What about the 30 years he was alive and spoke ill of me?" I think there's some truth to that.

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It's A Job

Being myself a farmer, I consider it a good year if I'm able to cover my expenses. Mostly my husband "works to support his wife's farming habit." I work basically 24/7/365, and I'm lucky if I can wedge in a few hours on Christmas where I can do some socializing. All for around $4,000 a year. No benefits. Not even any glory.

I wish I could make money at writing. I give it away free. I give my cartoon away free three times a week and have to put up with people nitpicking it and over-thinking my jokes. Which I guess is better than having my stuff Rule 34'd, like they do to Lauren Faust.

And incidentally, I used to be in the landscaping business. Another job where you can bust your butt ten hours a day, six days a week, out in the blazing sun, for minimum wage and the opportunity to starve to death during the winter when you can't work. And have the nodding appreciation of people who drive cars worth more than your house because you keep their lawns looking nice.

The one nice thing about mowing lawns is that riding a tractor for hours on end gives you a lot of time to think about writing stories.

But then the paid publishing industry's tanked, so if anybody ever made any money writing, they ought to consider themselves lucky. Publishers no longer want fantasy or science fiction--a look through the 2012 Writer's Guide showed me that--and even if they did, you need to approach their hallowed sanctums through an Agent. And no Agents are currently looking for new clients.

And assuming you *can* get a contract, expect an Editor to cut the guts out of your story. It's just The Way It Is. I'm not sure what some of these recent authors did to get contracts, but I've read some recently-written books, and they could have been penned by sixth-graders.

But the Editors know the market, so they say, and they want stories that will make them money. An author signs a contract, and the author has to be satisfied with the terms of that contract.

Holding grudges for 40 years seems a bit ridiculous.

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>>The actual script for "City on the Edge of Forever" netted Harlan about seven grand, which, even in those days, was not a lot of money. The script took him the better part of a year to write. Let's say nine months. That means that, per day, he was getting paid about $25, but of course he didn't get that until the end.<<

$7k in 1965 would be the equivalent of $50k today, which would be over $65k/annum, and comfortably over $5k/month. Not an enormous sum, obviously, but not shabby by any means ... especially if toward the end of the 9 months, when he's just on set to verify proceedings, he could be thinking about and prepping for his next project.

(Figures courtesy of http://www.davemanuel.com/inflation-calculator.php)

Also, your calculation of $25/day (in 1960's dollars) assumes that he's working every single day for 9 months straight, including weekends, holidays, weddings, funerals, etc. Assuming an average of a 6 workdays/week, it's actually over $30/day. Assuming a 5-day workweek, it's close to $40/day.

But in fact, a daily amount is probably not really relevant. The more helpful figures are the monthly and/or yearly totals IMO.

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"But did he cash the check?"

"But did he cash the check?"

Why should that matter? Does getting paid for work he did somehow make his complaints less valid? If we extend that argument, doesn't that mean that getting paid for *anything* makes the work less valid? I think that's silly. People always say "Well, [insert name] complained a lot, but that didn't stop him cashing the check, so he must not have been *too* angry, he just wanted to put on an act of being pretentious and artsy." That's crap, particularly where writers are concerned. Writers are the low men on the totem pole, and always have been.

Harlan, and Bradbury, and Dick and the rest started out in an industry where you were getting ONE CENT per word, *IF* you could get a story published. A vignette like your Pecan Pie story might net you $20 bucks, assuming you could sell stuff at all, which was a tough business. Dick had something like 75 stories published over the course of 18 month, and he was losing money. Literally starving. Literally feeding himself and his wife by buying horsemeat from the pet store (It was low-grade dog food in those days). Harlan was cranking out a story a week for five years, which is prodigious by anyone's standards, and sales were a bit easier as he lived in NYC, where the big publishers were, but still: 250 stories or so in five years, working his ass off, and basically all he was able to afford was a one-room apartment, water, electricity, a hot plate, and groceries for the week. Forget luxuries like a car, or insurance, or medicine, or parties or whatever.

In a situation like that, who can afford to *not* take the check? Particularly when your *job* is a writer. What, you're going to do all that work and live in poverty and then just give it away for free? Give it away for free to a Jackass like Roddenberry, who's just going to take credit for it anyway, and slam your name? Why make it easy for the guy?

The actual script for "City on the Edge of Forever" netted Harlan about seven grand, which, even in those days, was not a lot of money. The script took him the better part of a year to write. Let's say nine months. That means that, per day, he was getting paid about $25, but of course he didn't get that until the end. Now, on top of *that,* writers also had to do as many unpaid rewrites as the show wanted. Harlan did six or so. Let's say six. These aren't spellcheck things, these are massive reworkings, in many cases complete rewrites, so, in essence, he had to write the same script seven times. That brings his per-day pay - if we factor it in - to about four bucks a day for nine months. Added to which, it's expected that the writer will be on hand at different stages in the production for meetings with the staff, and on hand for the actual filming - which would have been a week to ten days - in case there need to be any line changes or last minute fixes, or whatever. You don't get paid for that, though they let you eat free from Craft Services. During those periods, obviously, you can't be working on anything else.

Now, some shows paid more, some paid less, but Trek paid pretty good by the standards of the time. Some shows were better to work for, some were worse. Harlan's episode of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea went through *forty* rewrites, with the same basic thing: Write it, get paid, rewrite, rewrite, rewrite, rewrite, every time your actual *real* average drops. Some times you luck out, and it goes through without a problem, but that's really rare.

So how could he *not* take the check, and how could his taking the check be considered a sign that he was somehow a fake? He invested nine months of his life in that script! He had a mortgage, a career, union dues, an agent. How long do you think you'd survive in H'wood without an agent? How long do you think you'd KEEP an agent if you refused to cash checks from paying customers? C'mon!

Perhaps the fact that we're talking about "writing" makes it too artsy, to theoretical. Let's back it up, compare it to something mundane. Let's compare it to plumbing: Jim wants a new lawn sprinkler system put in, and he hires Jack to do it. Jack comes up with the system, and Jim says "Well, no, I want a flower bed here, and I don't care so much if the back yard goes brown because no one can see that, so make some changes. Oh, and I'm not going to pay you for these changes" Jack says "Well, that doesn't make much sense, but ok. You're the boss." So he does. Then Jack says "Well, what the hell is wrong with you, boy! My back yard is going to go all brown, and I wanted the flower bed on *this* side, and also put in a pond. And as ever, I'm not going to pay you for these changes." Jack says ok. This happens two or three more times, until finally Jim says "You know what, you suck, get out of here, and leave your plans, I'll just fix it myself." So Jack leaves, irritated.

Jim attempts to fix the system himself, but he's an idiot, and just makes it disastrously bad. He hands it over to his friend Bobby to fix (unpaid, mind you) and she does, despite admitting that the original plumbing plans were far better than what she came up with, and her job was basically damage control.

So Jim *FINALLY* gets his sprinkler system, and it works. People say "Jack did this, huh? He's pretty good." "Oh, no," says Jim, "Jack is a talentless jackass. You wouldn't believe the crap he tried to foist off on me. I had to re-do this entire thing myself," he lies, "and Jack's just got problems and is really hard to deal with. You should never hire him. In fact, I'm going to spend the next thirty years telling people that Jack is an incompetent boob, and since *I've* got a big house and a big name, what *I* say will carry a lot of weight!"

So can you see why Jack would be a bit pissed? Can you see why he'd take his lousy $7 grand?

Harlan - and many other writers - have been screwed, both by Roddenberry and other producers. It's the name of the game. (David Gerrold was unhappy with the way "The Cloud Minders" got treated) He's even been screwed *worse* than Roddenberry did on occasion. His registered pseudonym with the writers guild - "Cordwainer Bird" - was one he put on scripts that he wrote, but was unhappy with because of meddling from producers or whatever. In fifty years of writing for TV, he's only used it FIVE times (Well, more than that if you count "The Starlost," but I take that show as one thing), only when he's *Really* unhappy (As with the Voyage script). He *wanted* to use it on the finished version of "City," but Roddenberry wouldn't let him. Why? Because that would be a flag to other writers that Trek wasn't a great show to write for, and that it wasn't as smart as it pretended to be, and that it didn't respect name authors like Ellison. That would make 'em look bad. Roddenberry told Ellison that if he used the pseudonym, he'd burn him down. He'd see to it that he never worked for any NBC or Desilu show ever again.

Again, who can throw that kind of thing away? I mean, his only other sales that year had been to NBC!

So: Roddenberry wouldn't let Harlan wash his hands of the project, he threatened to blacklist him, *AND* he badmouthed him for decades.

Of course he cashed the check. It would have been wrong not to.

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If You Remember The Sixties, You Weren't There

I was born in the middle of 1966, so the only way I could watch 60's TV shows was in syndication during the 70's. My grandfather was the BIGGEST sci-fi nerd I'd ever met up to that point; if it had science in it, he'd eat it up with a ladle. And since it was his house, and his TV, we watched too.

I hated science fiction. Even as a kid I thought it was so hokey and bizarre that I usually went and played outside. Even in the rain.

I distinctly remember resisting going to see "Star Wars" because I thought it was going to be "stupid" like Star Trek or Space:1999.

I was always more into cartoons and silly stuff like the Munsters.

So that's why I said I was talking out of my hat; but in recent times I've been exposed to more of these "classic" 1960's TV series.

And I still think they're dreadful.

Roddenberry was not a nice person; a recent documentary makes this abundantly clear. He had a lot of personality flaws, let's put it that way. But he had a vision, and, like Kirk, he was the captain of his ship, and what he says goes whether the crew likes it or not. I know next to nothing about Ellison but I can well imagine the type of writer who thinks his work is always pure gold and anyone who doesn't agree with him is just an ignorant peasant.

It's like this. I want to stage a dog show. This guy wants to enter his cat. It may be a perfectly good cat, but since it's not a dog, I don't let him enter, and then he goes away moaning and complaining about how he was discriminated against.

Roddenberry wanted Trek done a certain way, and Ellison's dark visions didn't fit into that way. The boss is always right, even if he's an arrogant bastard. You don't like it, you quit and go somewhere else.

I mysef probably would have been just as peeved as Ellison had one of my scripts been radically rewritten. But did he cash the check?

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Optimism versus Didacticism

Man, I *WISH* there was no singing in Trek. Ugh.

I'm not speaking about you personally, but I often get the impression when I'm talking to apologists for TOS that their *only* exposure to 1960s SF was TOS, and it was likely their only exposure to 60s TV at large, excepting a few sitcoms. In fact, I know this is the case. Last con I went to, people were making outlandish claims about 60s TV that simply weren't true. These were the same people who were making outlandish claims about how awful the original Galactica was (It was never great, but it was FAR better than it had any right to be), and saying stuff about Space: 1999 that simply never happened on the show.

Obviously these people grew up in a world without UHF, and they're dealing with these things mostly by reputation. Conversely, in my youth, from about 1970 to about 1990, every city had at least one UHF station, and they were always cluttered with 10 to 40 year old crap, because it was all they could afford. And given the choice between watching Donahue or reruns of "The Mothers In Law," which am I gonna' choose? I mean, I'd've preferred to watch TOS or M:I something cool, but I'd *DEFINITELY* settle for "Here's Lucy" or Pink Panther cartoons if I had no choice.

As a result, I feel like my opinion of 60s TV tends to take in the overall context a bit more than does that of most modern geeks. Most modern geeks - pretty much anyone more than 10 years younger than me - have as little knowledge of the glory days of UHF as they have of the cold war, but it was pretty formative for me. They tend to go straight to the candy, but I'm happy to sample the buffet.

Trek really wasn't a product of fear. It was a product of early 60s Optimism. You want shows that were products of fear, check *any* spy show, or Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (Which I bring up a lot as it's the closest comparison to TOS) or The Invaders, where every week the world *almost* blows up because of the actions of one or more evil people, who are foiled, but only barely. Opposite this, you've got shows like pretty much any western, and the Rural Comedies, who's appeal was nostalgia (Despite the comedies being contemporary) Celebrate down-home wisdom, turn your back on the world's fears, ignore, ignore, ignore. That's a kind of fear, too.

TOS was optimistic, but it *wasn't* the only show that was, not by a longshot. I think it differed from the others in that it *wasn't* as serious (They swashbuckled. Everyone on the Seaview or in the IMF were always so grim), and that it was smarter than the competition. Not that it was all that smart, it really wasn't. (Frank Gorshin, the racist from a planet at the "Southern Edge of the Galaxy?" Yikes!) But it was generally smarter than LiS. And it was fairly preachy, but the morals were *entirely* populist, and since the show was fun, and smart-ish, and preaching a message that most people already believed, then obviously you're not going to come away from it angry.

Nor particularly challenged. I mean, give me a difficult issue TOS faced? Vietnam? They supported it. That's as contentious as they got.

The stories about conflict with the network were almost always created by Roddenberry, who seemed to like to maintain his control by repeatedly telling people that he was all that stood between them and endless attacks from stupid people outside. People conveniently only he could see. Yes, they had problems with censors, but EVERY show had trouble with censors. I really don't think TOS had any more trouble with them than The Wild Wild West did. In fact, I'm going to assume it had *less* trouble, since it came on later at night, and was considerably less popular (Censors tend to concentrate on popular shows more than ones they know no one's watching.) I doubt *EITHER* show had anywhere near as many censorsip problems as Batman did. And I've read some of the censor comments, and they're not out of line ("Please adjust her costume so we can't see her crotch" and "It has recently been shown that people can be hypnotized over TV, so rather than risk endangering our audience, or risk the appearance of endangering our audience, can we substitute some fictional method of hypnotism for the realistic one shown in the script.")

I mean, it wasn't like NBC *wanted* the show to bomb. They invested a ton of money and time in it, and in fact they renewed it *TWICE* despite utterly crap ratings. They wanted it to be a hit, they believed in it, it just wasn't. Really the only bad thing you can say about NBC was that they didn't really know how to market the show. Apart from that, they took a really big chance which didn't pay off for them at all, and had to face 50 years of everybody giving 'em grief for it.

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I'm going to talk out my hat for a moment, because I always thought TOS was silly, and not in the good way.

But at the time of its inception, the world was getting to be a scary place, and even though the news was only on for a few minutes a day (rather than the 24/7 drumbeat of doom and gloom we're exposed to now) people were genuinely scared that the planet could go up in nuclear flames at any minute. There were race riots and student unrest, the Cold War and IIRC a recession going on.

Gene Roddenberry wanted to put out a program that showed what could be possible if humanity was able to transcend its differences and work together toward a common goal. He wanted to create something that was uplifting and inspiring.

Spock was on board as the "token alien" but also to show that emotionlessness and logic *could* be carried too far. That the audience fell in love with him made it difficult to prevent him from becoming a bit more of a foil for humor, but I can see what his intitial intent was. Bones was over-passionate, Kirk was the average guy with these two opposing "angels" on his shoulders; and Scotty got a bigger role because he was the working-class guy who kept the ship running, so he was interesting to the mechanics in the core audience who wanted to imagine themselves aboard the Enterprise.

The storylines I've seen have usually been fairly didactic. "This is what will happen if we don't stop fighting" or "never trust appearances" or what have you; it's kind of like "My Little Pony" in space and without the singing. ;)

Lots of other programs--cop shows, mostly, since that was the hot genre--could feature the sort of stuff Ellison wanted to inject into the scripts. Fine. I think Roddenberry was aiming for a different audience, or the network said "This is like a comic book, we'd better not do anything to scare off the parents."

I don't see anything at all wrong with Roddenberry wanting to keep his show about the concept of what humanity can accomplish if it listens to its better angels. Unrealistic, you say?

The ship runs on crystals. Exactly where did this lose reality for you?

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I can't remember who did it, but I had a book of actual published sociological graduate papers on Trek about 15 years back, and one of them made a VERY strong (But probably disingenuous) argument that the Federation was a dictatorship citing those same examples.

Roddenberry hand-waved it aside. His stock reply was that the Fed was 'tighter than the UN, looser than the US' or something like that. I can forgive that. Despite B5 spending a LOT more time dealing with the EA than (Any) Trek ever did with the Federation government, there's still a lot of questions as to how it worked in some specific areas. (F'rinstance, are earth's colonies *states?* Do they have a voice in the Senate? It's never mentioned, though we know they're taxed: "Earth? What do I know about earth? I'm from Arisia Colony. Earth was just a name that sent us entertainment videos and took all our money in taxes")

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The TOS universe had to be a scary place to live the federation had reeducation camps (penal planets) for people that do not conform and they treat people with mental illness as criminals. They allow member planets (states) to execute people with no appeal and they seize property without do process.

All these things are shown in 'Dagger of the Mind', 'The Trouble with Tribbles', 'I, Mudd', 'Whom Gods Destroy' and many more.

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>>Kirk expresses a lot of insecurity in Balance of Terror "Bones? What if I'm wrong...?"<<

Point taken. I thought you were saying they said he was insecure as a kid.

>>His whole speech in "Naked Time" is about how lonely he is, and how worried that he'll make a mistake and lose the ship.<<

Yeah, as I said, he had some flaws, mostly emotional.

>>But isn't ignoring the existance of character flaws in Star Trek a little like saying "The Wild Wild West is a show where no one is below average height?"<<

I've probably confused the issue here: Obviously interpersonal conflict wasn't really an issue in season 1 TOS (Spock is frequently annoyed by Kirk, and Spock and McCoy don't like each other at all, and are not shy about demonstrating it. They toned this back the next year, and I don't think it really hurt the show when it did.) Roddenberry *was* very much opposed to interpersonal conflicts in TNG, and he hated the movies, though why is arguable.

You simply couldn't have a 60s show with a normal-sized cast without the characters dickering with each other about something. Hogan's Heroes or Lost in Space or Trek or Bonanza: it was simply the style of the time. The real issue here is on the 'perfectability' of humanity, which is not a burden those other shows had to drag behind them. If any other show wanted to do an episode about a psycho killer or a drug pusher or war criminals, they just *did* 'em. If Trek wanted to do one they generally had to jump through hoops to say "Well, Jack the Ripper is an alien" and "These war criminals are from *before* we became perfect" or simply "We won't do this story because it has drugs, thereby implying humanity isn't perfect."

That's very limiting to a writer, *AND* it does, in fact, limit the nature of interpersonal conflicts. Not so much between the principle characters, but between them and the plot of the week. The threat *always* has to be external, which limits character development. You can't have - as per, the original Galactica - Adama getting mad at Starbuck and Apollo for not showing due respect to the council they've sworn to defend, or Starbuck being too hung over to launch during an alert. You can't have anything involving a black market because there wouldn't logically *be* a black market. Hence DS9 having to basically go outside the federation in order to find any non-utopian stories to tell.

So: interpersonal conflict, "Hey, you're a jerk" that was ok in the day. Interpersonal conflict on the level of "Hey, lets go mete out justice to bad people in our own society" was right out.

>>As for petty crime not existing in Season 1?
Well, here's something we both forgot: The Venus Drugs in "Mudd's Women". Yeah, they've got drugs, but Harry Mudd was seen to be a thorough scoundrel. Certainly not the sign of a perfected humanity.<<

Agreed. I've often wondered about that. I *suspect* Roddenberry just had it in for Harlan, and his continual "Scotty dealing drugs" thing was simply a slur, a slam, a way of making a more talented guy look like a jerk while making himself look better in the process. "City" won awards, so it wasn't one he could just ignore. and Roddenberry always claimed credit for "Saving" the script by rewriting it himself. (He didn't). It's an early episode. It may have been filmed before Bjo took on continuity cop duties. It may also have been one of those episodes that Roddenberry decided "Simply never happened."

>>Look: I'm not saying what Ellison said wasn't prescient about the way Star Trek went, but it wasn't accurate about the way Star Trek was at the time. At least the way it appeared on screen.<<

Fair enough. We agree the seeds were there, though, and I think Harlan was talking (As others from that era have likewise complained about) that Roddenberry's BTS dictates were needlessly limiting. As we've said, there were basically only 8 or 9 Trek stories, played out in endless variation.

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I just don't see Season 1 as having Humanity Perfected

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Kirk expresses a lot of insecurity in Balance of Terror "Bones? What if I'm wrong...?"

His whole speech in "Naked Time" is about how lonely he is, and how worried that he'll make a mistake and lose the ship.

As for "Named Carbon Blobs" well, a lot of folks here were saying that Starfleet was perfect. I say Starfleet was not perfect (at least in season 1) the characters who recieved some development were fallible. Yes, Bailey, and while Sulu and Uhura were replacable, what little character development they got was about their talents and flaws. IE they weren't perfect.

Who, in season 1, or even season 2 is perfect? Nobody!

>>>Saying Star Trek has flawed characters because Commodore Decker went all crazy-eight Ahab and punched a guy is like saying "The Wild Wild West is a show about midgets."<<<

But isn't ignoring the existance of character flaws in Star Trek a little like saying "The Wild Wild West is a show where no one is below average height?"

As for petty crime not existing in Season 1?
Well, here's something we both forgot: The Venus Drugs in "Mudd's Women". Yeah, they've got drugs, but Harry Mudd was seen to be a thorough scoundrel. Certainly not the sign of a perfected humanity.

Look: I'm not saying what Ellison said wasn't prescient about the way Star Trek went, but it wasn't accurate about the way Star Trek was at the time. At least the way it appeared on screen.

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>>In my opinion it's Because they got along so well. It would be reassuring to have friends like that, knowing they would stand by each other in the face of adversity.

Some folks say that lack of imperfections makes for lack of drama.

Not really, it just changes the focus of the drama.

When characters get along, the plot of an adventure must be externally driven. It's the attacking alien, or force of nature or moral issue that the characters must band together to work out.<<

Once someone asked me what my favorite color was. I said "Of what?" Doesn't matter, just what's your favorite color. "Yes it does matter. I like red cars, but I don't like it if my urine is read. I like green vegetables, but I don't like green stuff growing in my shower."

Point being there's not just one way of doing stuff. Everyone got along just ducky on "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea," too. But only one of the characters there was any good, so it didn't work. There was a great deal of interpersonal conflict on Lost in Space, but the stories sucked, so it was pretty irritating. The interpersonal conflict on Lost was a needed, important part of the show. The interpersonal conflict on Caprica was basically stupid trendy crap there to pad out the nonexistent story. Secret Agent 86 repeatedly shot and killed people, which was ok because it was all in fun, but that would have been completely inappropriate in "The Flying Nun."

Trek had a good, affable cast, and good writers. I'm not dissing anybody. They had their way to do it, they did it, and it eventually worked out in the long run. *HOWEVER* might it have worked out for them in the short run if they'd had a less dogmatic sense of what is and isn't an appropriate story? Might they have held an audience, and managed to get their 5 seasons/110 episodes?

SF is about imagination, and when you start saying "We can't do this, and we can't do that, and we won't do that, and I don't believe in this, so it doesn't exist even as a story in my show" then you're *limiting* your imagination, reducing the number of bullets you can shoot. This is unavoidable to some extent, but I think TOS went a bit too far in the Ideological Purity department. And I doubt I'm the only one who thought so.

I mean, it wasn't like people were lining up to give Roddenberry another show. Heck, he was the FOURTH choice to run TNG!

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>>What I'd like to point out is that it's a Very Fine Line between making a character Admirable, and making a character a Prig. In certain circumstances, the same character with the same attitude can be one or the other.<<

Agreed!

>>Kirk: is revealed to be a very Bookish, insecure and lonely guy, referred to his friends as "A stack of books with legs."<<

Bearing in mind that this was TWELVE YEARS before the show takes place, and that people change quite a bit. And he was in a very tough school at the time. Clearly he's lightened up. I don't think they ever said he was insecure, though. He had other flaws, mostly emotional.

>>Spock: With his unemotional aspergers vulcan schtick, is shown to be a total screwup when it comes to emotions. See the "Galileo 7" to watch him really blow it big time, getting 2 crewmen killed because he doesn't understand that his opponents have emotions, while at the same time pissing off his subordinates because he can't relate to them at all.<<

Agreed!

>>McCoy: Emotional Hot-Head prone to inappropriate outbursts. (Yelling/threatening the Captain on the bridge during an emergency? (Corbomite Maneuver)<<

Bar none, McCoy is the best, most *human* character in the entire history of Trek.

Bailey? Come on! Might as well throw Mr. Leslie and Mr. Kyle in there if we're gonna' be treating named carbon blobs as characters.

Uhura,Sulu: Ciphers. In the worst tradition of 60s SF, they're defined by their job descriptions. The're not characters, they're seating arrangements. You can - and have - replaced them for episodes at a time.

>>Scotty: Borderline insubordinate, bookish Nerd who'd rather read technical journals than go on shore leave<<

Scotty is a great character who was initially named simply "Engineer" in the early scripts. Pretty much anything noteworthy about him was put there by the actor, mostly on the fly. Takai and Nichols simply didn't have the charisma to pull that off. Koenig had more charisma than them, less than Doohan. Being a latecomer to the party, though, Checkov actually had some character in mind before they started, which wasn't the case with anyone apart from the big three.

Cmdr Ben Finney, Cadet Finnegan, Stone, Mitchell, Commodore Fox, etc: you can't count guest stars. Saying Star Trek has flawed characters because Commodore Decker went all crazy-eight Ahab and punched a guy is like saying "The Wild Wild West is a show about midgets."

>>Yoeman Rand: Insecure, she talks about trying to get the Captain to notice her legs.<<

I liked her. Not my type o' woman, but I liked her. Interestingly, she had a prominent bit to do in the unfilmed "City" script. Majel got the actress fired. I wouldn't say she was a great character, but it's interesting to see at least one direction she could have gone in.

>>TNG changed all that, of course, and what Ellison says holds true for that, but it sure doesn't for Season 1 TOS when he was writing.<<

That's a good point that deserves clarification, and thanks for bringing it up: Without actually hunting down the quotes because I haven't slept in two days, and just dont' feel like doing it, he wasn't saying there was no conflict on the show (Many fistfights and shootings and whatnot) or an absence of bad guys (Klingons, Romulans, Gorn), but rather that there were certain kinds of conflict that Roddenberry refused to have for ideological reasons.

For instance, in Harlan's script, there's a scene where Spock is pretty put of by the open racism of 20th century earth, and he and Kirk get into an argument over it. Spock says it's disgusting, and they should have waited to perfect themselves before they went off into space, like the Vulcans did. Kirk says that it's this kind of evil crap that - when properly channeled and focused - allows us to do stuff like colonize space before we're ready, and this is why Earth has so much more to show for it than the Vulcans. I'm paraphrasing HEAVILY.

Roddenberry objected to this - despite it being a good scene - because he insisted that *humanity* will be perfected, no hate, war, greed, poverty, or whatever, and *certainly* none of those qualities can be show to have positive aspects.

See what I mean?

He also objected to the petty crime aspect that sets the story running, because (evidently) he believed that in a perfect civilization there could be no crime nor drug abuse, and since humanity is perfect in Star Trek, these plot devices can ipso facto not be used. Harlan's contention was that this SERIOUSLY limits the kinds of stories you can tell, and the kind of character development you can have, and indeed since I'm sure we've all complained about how there's basically only eight plots to all of Star Trek, I think we agree that he's right.

So: Roddenberry allowed some interpersonal conflict on the original show (Indeed, he couldn't have stopped it if he wanted to), but Ellison et al's contentions about "Perfect people" relate more to the strictures on writing *beyond* the cast. You simply weren't allowed to tell certain kinds of stories because that would mean humanity isn't perfect.

>>I remember reading an old "Starlog" magazine about how Star Trek (there was only one at the time) got censored in some places. I remember how Gerry Anderson's "UFO" in 1970 caused contraversy with Cmdr Straker shooting up stimulants with a syringe in one episode. Putting a Drug Dealer into Star Trek in 1967 would have caused BIG BIG problems.<<

Would it? Mission: Impossible did a BUNCH of drug episodes. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. did a few. Ironside did a few. The Prisoner (1968) did a LOT that involved drugs (Only one got censored in the US, and that was because of its anti-Vietnam stance). I Spy must have. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea did at least one episode involving hallucinogens (a bad one). I count six or seven cop shows in the '67 sked, all of which must have had at least one drugs-are-bad-and-drug-pushers-are-criminals episode, right?

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Enduring Characters

While Star Trek has it's problems (a lot of them) and heroic characters (Admirable or Prigs) one must admit that they created Enduring Characters that remain popular in people's minds.

In my opinion it's Because they got along so well. It would be reassuring to have friends like that, knowing they would stand by each other in the face of adversity.

Some folks say that lack of imperfections makes for lack of drama.

Not really, it just changes the focus of the drama.

When characters get along, the plot of an adventure must be externally driven. It's the attacking alien, or force of nature or moral issue that the characters must band together to work out.

It may be funny with Bugs Bunny & Daffy Duck, but you don't have to have McCoy and Spock arguing over if it's "Vulcan Season" or "Human Season".

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Character Flaws in Star Trek TOS season 1

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This post is NOT meant as a "Gotcha!" This post is to point out that people's tastes can and do vary, not only from person to person but to the same person over time, and in different situations. I'm not trying to get on anyone's case, but if I can get you to think a bit, I'll count it as a win for all.

R3 starts out his review with something I must quote in it's entire:
>>>Maybe I’m just a bit perverse, but I want my heroes to be *better* than me, you know? If it’s something that *I* can do myself, then it’s not all that remarkable that General Douglas MacArthur did it, and it makes him somewhat less of an inspirational figure in my life. I want my heroes to be inspirational figures, sure, aspirational as well (If that’s a word, and if it isn’t, it should be), but more than that, I want my heroes to be challenging people who are simply *better* than me in ways I can shoot for, but never quite get. I don’t want some kind of easygoing idol who tells me that I’m Good Enough Just The Way I Am, and that we’re Free To Be You And Me, because I know damn well that I am *not* good enough. I want someone who challenges me, angers me, frightens me on occasion, and goads me on to greater personal accomplishments, and yet is someone I can respect.<<<

He is speaking of course of Harlan Ellison.

However, as the post and comments about it go on, the complaint about Star Trek becomes one that all the characters in Star Trek are Too Respectable. Too Perfect.

What I'd like to point out is that it's a Very Fine Line between making a character Admirable, and making a character a Prig. In certain circumstances, the same character with the same attitude can be one or the other.

Personally, I agree with everything I quoted above about heroes. I'm rather bored by what passes for main characters in stories these days. Those that aren't outright criminals are usually slackers, losers or general jerks who find a magic aladdin's lamp or robot, or power ring or something rather than guys who work their way up.

On the subject at hand though: TOS Season 1, for that's when "City on the Edge Of Forever" was written. Ellison complains that the characters were "Too Perfect" and Roddenberry didn't want flawed characters.

Well, that's a Very Odd thing to say about TOS Season 1.

Kirk: is revealed to be a very Bookish, insecure and lonely guy, referred to his friends as "A stack of books with legs."

Spock: With his unemotional aspergers vulcan schtick, is shown to be a total screwup when it comes to emotions. See the "Galileo 7" to watch him really blow it big time, getting 2 crewmen killed because he doesn't understand that his opponents have emotions, while at the same time pissing off his subordinates because he can't relate to them at all.

McCoy: Emotional Hot-Head prone to inappropriate outbursts. (Yelling/threatening the Captain on the bridge during an emergency? (Corbomite Maneuver)

Mr. Bailey: Navigator who totally looses it under pressure.

Uhura: A tease who goes after Spock at least twice (Mantrap, Charlie X)

Sulu: Irresponsible with guns and swords.

Scotty: Borderline insubordinate, bookish Nerd who'd rather read technical journals than go on shore leave.

Cmdr Ben Finney: A good friend of Kirk's who fakes his own death to get Kirk.

Cadet Finnegan: A prankster using his upper classman rank to make other's lives miserable.

Yoeman Rand: Insecure, she talks about trying to get the Captain to notice her legs. (Miri)

Commodore Stone: A desk bound officer who is more than happy to sweep charges of incompetance under the rug for the good of the service.

Checkov: A fully indoctrinated Russian Supremacist.

Gary Mitchell: Even before he gets zapped with godhood, he still comes off as an arrogant jerk.

Add in the various Admirals and Commodores and you see that when Ellison was writing "City on the Edge of Forever" Star Fleet is a very very far cry from Perfect.

TNG changed all that, of course, and what Ellison says holds true for that, but it sure doesn't for Season 1 TOS when he was writing.

But to say that these characters as they existed at the time are "Too Perfect" because they don't include a drug dealer is a little bit unrealistic.

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I remember reading an old "Starlog" magazine about how Star Trek (there was only one at the time) got censored in some places. I remember how Gerry Anderson's "UFO" in 1970 caused contraversy with Cmdr Straker shooting up stimulants with a syringe in one episode. Putting a Drug Dealer into Star Trek in 1967 would have caused BIG BIG problems.

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Melinda Snodgrass

I can not imagine how frustrating it must be for an author with some serious talent to be so completely hamstrung by people who are of such limited creativity and vision that they don't even *realize* they're hamstringing people.

You wanna' know what made Trek so great in TOS days? That they didn't give a damn about continuity and consistent messages. As long as it was generally 'up with people,' that was good enough. If A contradicts B, well, we'll leave that to DC to take care of. Got a compelling idea? Sure, run with it! We're making this up as we go along, anyway!

This is exactly what makes TNG and the rest so un-great: they're so amazingly dedicated to continuity (Though they screw it up anyway) and 'the message' that they simply can not write for sour apples. There's no science in their science fiction, and precious little 'fiction' as well.

It's like those terrible Prince Xixor books set between Empire and Jedi, where they're very cautious not to tell stories that take any chances or violate known canon, and hence fail entirely to be entertaining. TNG (And the rest) are like that without even the excuse of being interstitial.

If there are no chances taken, there is no drama, and if there is no drama, why bother telling the story?

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I met Melinda Snodgrass

I met Melinda Snodgrass at a NOLAcon a year or two after she left TNG, when she was hacking for "Wildcards." I asked her why she left TNG and she said, "I got tired of writing about seven perfect people." She later explained, "I tried to write an episode about a planet that wanted to leave the Federation, and everyone looked at me with their mouths open and said, 'No one wants to leave the Federation!'"

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It totally is!

I totally agree. Of all the Ellision-talking-about-the-industry books and stories I've read - up to and including the "Glass Teat" books - this one is far and away my favorite. Granted, I'm somewhat invested in my increasing dislike of Trek, and my longstanding loathing of Herr Roddenberry, so I'm unquestionably disposed to like a book that furthers my preconceptions.

Even still, the book is a hoot. By degrees exciting, sad, outraged, and introspective. I really did love it, and I'd strongly reccomend others to check it out. Particularly obsessive Trekies.

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Um, guys? Let's get back on

Um, guys? Let's get back on topic, which is Harlan's book. The main point being: this is the funniest, most entertaining, craziest read I've ever encountered. ("Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most . . . hilarious!")

Everyone must go right now and get a copy of this book! Now! Do it! You won't regret it. Ellison and Roddenberry butting heads is like the greatest cage match ever conceived.

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Anti-Vulcanism

One of the early elements of the show, which quickly got dropped, was Anti-Vulcanism. Vulcans (Or "Vulcanians" as they were called in the early first season) were mistrusted and looked down on for no reasons ever explained. Functionally, Spock was like the indian guide that led the Wagon Train, someone the pioneers may not like or trust, but whom they need. This was intended as a way to show people getting over their biases in actual practce - "I don't trust you, but I'll work with you" - but Roddenberry quickly soured on the idea, and removed it. By the time of the Kirk/Finney trial, it's gone.

The only bit of it that remained was McCoy's continual sniping at Spock (And occasional vice-versa). Southerners are irretrievably Racist, after all, we're told that again and again and again by people from California. There are indications that Roddenberry didn't like this, but it worked and so he was kind of stuck with it, but it quickly shifted tones from racial dislike to merely a war between the head and the heart, with McCoy arguing that feeling is better than thinking. It was also repeatedly shown in the later years to be mostly bluster. McCoy actually *liked* Spock, but was too curmudgeonly to admit it.

Every politico and flag officer from starfleet was a useless ass. You're right. IF we follow Ellison's reasoning from this book through - and I think we have to - then it becomes a case of Kirk being a surrogate for Roddenberry himself, and only Gene knows what's right! Therefore, Kirk/Gene must always save the day despite interference from any knownothing layabout that outranks him, or those damn studio execs that tell me how to run my show.

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You mostly answered my questions, and I don't think I've ever seen "Mudd's Woman." (It sounds like something my parents would have turned off if I was around.) Again, I'm working mostly from memory and the occasional AV Club Star Trek review.

Wasn't McCoy anti-Vulcan? I admit that I don't believe any of the crew ever expressed any anti-black or asian views, but is that so far-fetched, really? Couldn't skin color and eye-shape be treated the same as hair and eye color several hundred years from now? I would hope so, anyway.

And I thought one of the least believable things about Star Trek-- (Well, no. Strike that.) I thought it was fairly unbelievable that every single Starfleet officer they encountered was an ass. Starfleet always showed that they didn't value individual lives and always wanted to abandon various crew members to their deaths for the sake of the mission. At least that's how I remember it.

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But Mike he did have drug pushers and even prostitution on the show see the episode Mudd's Woman. It was just he seemed to want Star Fleet to be a bunch of saints. Now I was in the Navy and I bet that spaceman will act a lot like seaman they will have the same sort of stress and psychological strains.
Now the show does get some points for the few anti war episodes they did and that the network pointedly never reran. And I know he had to fight to even have blacks and Asians on the show but that does not change the candy coated idea of the Federation as being always good and right. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, it will be as true in the future as it is now.

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Ok, firstly: Ellison means "Perfect" in the sense that no member of the crew would ever exhibit a non-PC value. Every single member of the crew is entirely tolerant of race, color, creed, heritage, whatever. (Though they are sexist as hell). No member of the crew would ever lie, cheat, nor steal to get ahead. Why? Well because in the utopian fantasy world of the federation, there's no need since everyone has everything they want and need. Oooooookay....what about people who just lie, cheat, and steal because they enjoy it. 'in that instance, such malcontents will be geneticly weeded out of our society'

I made that last bit up, but the point as Ellison was explaining it is that no crewmember of the Enterprise will *ever* be allowed to behave less than angelic on the show. Humans are perfected, and negative qualities can only be exhibited by the aliens on the show, who function mostly as surrogates for third world nations and peoples in the show anyway.

So you can't have Crewman Johnson be a dick just because Crewman Johnson is a dick: It's either because (A) Crewman Johnson is sick, (B) Crewman Johnson is secretly an alien who hasn't embraced the Roddenberrian concepts of universal non-dickishness, (C) Crewman Johnson is secretly yet another annoying godlike entity or (D) Crewman Johnson will not be on the show at all. There were even memos to this effect - all conflict will be us vs. them, never never never will we have someone make fun of Checkov because he hangs out with that gay dude all the time...

Ellisons's reaction to this was that it's next to impossible to write drama in utopia, since utopia is a place where - by definition - dramatic things don't happen, and that it if you've ever been on a ship or in the navy, it's extremely unlikely there wouldn't be at least a few bad eggs on a ship the size of the Enterprise anyway.

Second question: Wasn't Roddenberry within his rights to say he didn't want that on his show?

Absolutely. Yes. Totally. That's cool. And when he pointed that out to Harlan, once Harlan got done complaining, he sat down and re-wrote the entire script to get rid of the drug useage. He did it free of charge. Then he did it at least twice more, free of charge, but by then they were just jerking him around and everyone on the staff was having a turn at re-writing it, ultimately with Roddenberry himself taking credit for it. (He lied. He didn't write it. It was DC Fontanna who did the final rewrite, Roddenberry only contributed a few lines - mostly Edith's speech about the future). Then he spent the next 30 years lying about it, deliberately slandering Ellison's good name, and insisting that Ellison refused to do something that in fact he'd done at least three times already, maybe more.

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I'm not a big Star Trek fan, but it seems to me that when you're talking about the original series, only Kirk was "perfect." Now, I don't think that makes for an interesting character, so I'm not saying that's a good thing, but is it true that every member of Starfleet, or even of the Enterprise, was portrayed as perfect? I think that claim goes much too far.

And on 1960s television, were gritty dramas all that feasible, especially in what seems to be intended as a family show? I can understand why Ellison would be embittered by Rodenberry's lies, but isn't Rodenberry allowed to say, "I really don't want drug users and pushers on my show." I'm not sure why that's considered a moral failing on his part, rather than simply a morally neutral choice.

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Andromeda

Yeah, long road to Andromeda hitting the air. Basically, it started out as an exact copy of Star Trek. Basically Trek in a new fictional universe, with a few minor changes - the "Spock" character was replaced by an android female ("Gynoid") named Andromeda who was an extention of the ship of the same name. This got shot down fairly quick, but it got dusted off a few times. When Paramount expressed interest in TNG in the mid-80s, they were initially working on yet another attempt to launch "Andromeda," and then it eventually changed in to TNG.

The actual "Andromeda" show, when it finally hit the air, was almost entirely the product of Robert Wolf Hewett, and though it was very low budget and had a lot of inherent problems, I do have to give it some props for consistently doing things I didn't see coming. Then, in the middle of the 2nd season, RWH was fired and the show was screaming crap from then on. It was never great, but it had some potential.

And of course Lexa Doig is smokin' hot.

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Gene and Harlan

Andromeda now their was a show that after the first two episodes I knew I never wanted to see it again. I would have rather that they had picked up Genesis II in the 70's but I was a kid then. I hated Earth Final Conflict to, I think Gene had one good idea and sort of got stuck after that.
Since this started out about Harlan Ellison I would like to state that in the mid 70's the nerd group I ran with discovered Dangerous Visions and Ellison became the hip stuff to read for a time.

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Retcons and Continiuity Errors

Yeah, all true, all true. Thing is, there never really was much of a 'cannon' to Trek. When they were making TOS, Roddenberry could not have given less of a rat's damn about whether episode 8 contradicted episode 6 or not. Dorothy Fontanna was the one who actually sat down and took notes and tried to impose some consistency on it. After the show was done, Roddenberry insisted TAS counted, then when they started making the movies he insisted TAS didn't, and there were several episodes of TOS that he didn't consider canonical. TNG didn't even start out as Trek, it was originally a new show called "Andromeda," and then Paramount said "shoehorn it in to the Trek Universe, or else it won't sell," so he did, but *most* of the people working on TNG had no real knowledge of the original show, so it conflicts all the time with TOS. DS9 was worse, but then just to be annoying some of the writers worked in references to TAS, so even though TAS isn't canon, it *is* cannon, at least partially. And of course Roddenberry insisted that several of the movies weren't canon either.

So in addition to being a Science Fiction show that generally lacked both Science *AND* Fiction, and in addition to being didactic and boring as hell, in addition to its weird desire to show the "White Man's Burden" in space, in addition to all that, it was internally inconsistent as all get out.

Just a hell of a bad way to run a railroad, brother!

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Loved Trek once

When I was a kid I loved Star Trek, I even got to see some of the third season first run when I could con my way into staying up that late. In my tween years in the early 70's I remember all the kids running home to watch Trek at 5pm in Rochester NY. But now as someone in my late 40's there are a hand full of episodes I can still watch, the majority of the rest are just unwatchable now. Watching TNG I keep expecting to see a scene where a crew member went to their quarters and the computer would remind them that it was time to take their mood pills like in THX 1138.
Star Trek is some alternate California future where nothing really unpleasant happens and the government always knows the right thing to do. They even retcon their own back story to make it nicer, Star Trek Enterprise should have been about the Earth Romulan war but now it did not happen. The movie Star Trek First Contact should have shown the aftermath of the Eugenics wars but now it seems it did not happen the way it was first told. I have to thank god or the great spirit or something that I discovered Heinlein and other authors in my early teens or I might have ended up a Democrat.

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