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B-MOVIE CRAPFEST: “The Black Hole” (1979)

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As you’ll probably notice, “The Saturday Afternoon B-Movie Crapfest” is now simply the “B-Movie Crapfest.” This is because producing seven days worth of material, plus current show reviews has frankly burned me out. So I’m doing this feature when possible, and it’ll run on weekdays now. Just so you’ll know.

This movie made a huge impact on me when I was twelve. I saw it several times in the theaters, conning all my local adult relatives in to taking me at one point or another. I also attempted to con Kim Dipple into going with me, since I had a massive crush on her at the time, but no dice. She also wasn’t interested in going to see Xanadu with me (That was probably for the best), so my first date would have to wait for Christine Holden and “Flash Gordon” in 1980.

I didn’t get any face.

But as sad as that is, this movie held up better than I’d expected it to. It’s not great by any means, but it’s got a nice look and feel to it, some neat music, and it’s got a sort of timeless sixties feel to it, which was more than a decade out of date when it was made, but is no less timeless for its anachronism.* I’d been holding off watching it for a while for fear it would be utterly embarrassing, but it was a pleasant, occasionally moody almost-gothic doddle.

In one of his later reviews, Philip K. Dick referred to this movie as “Crap,” though he hadn’t seen it, and was going by reputation. Certainly he wasn’t wrong - I mean, hell, I’m covering it in “B-Movie Crapfest” for Pete’s sake, the title isn’t at all inapt - but it’s interesting that this movie actually touches - clumsily - on some of his own themes. Frankly, what this flick needed to make it a kickass cult film as opposed to a ‘what were they thinking?’ Disney oddity is Phil. If you kept exactly this same story, but had someone like him doing a final pass on it, it would’ve been brilliant.

PLAY BY PLAY

First we get this gorgeous, moody, funereal theme music by John Barry

After which we find the USS Palomino, a scientific scoutship heading back to earth in the year 2130. They’ve been out there 547 days, and are anxious to get home. The crew consists of Captain Dan Holland, Lt. Charlie Pizer, Dr. Kate McRae, Dr. Charles Durant, Harry Booth, a grizzled old reporter that you just know has a bottle of bourbon stashed somewhere, and V.I.N.C.E.N.T, the obligatory cute robot.

En rout they find a huge black hole, in all it’s really super-cool Technicolor glory. They’re about to simply move on when they discover a ship near the hole. It’s huge, and it’s not moving, which is seemingly impossible. They quickly identify it as the USS Cygnus, an American starship that went missing, presumed lost, twenty years earlier. They go in for a closer look, but run into trouble with the increasing gravity and take some damage. They reluctantly dock with the Cygnus, which suddenly comes alive while they were passing.

To their surprise they find the ship abandoned aside from some robots. Two kinds: stormtrooperish/Cylonish robots, and some gothic mirror faced (read: cheap) ones. Eventually they come to the massive control room, where they meet professor Hans Reinhardt, commander of the expedition. The Cygnus was ordered home twenty years prior, but never showed. Kate’s father was on the ship, conveniently enough for the plot. Reinhardt’s right-hand monster is a floating killbot named “Maximillian.”

Reinhardt tells them they took damage when making a pass by this black hole, and couldn’t leave, nor could they contact earth, nor receive messages. Reinhardt sent the crew back to earth in the lifeboats. He doesn’t even bother to feign emotion when he hears they never made it. He explains that he’s built an army of robots to fix and man the ship, and they’ve been doing antigravity research, with the intent of going into the black hole, through it, and coming out the other side into whatever awaits. Dr. Durrant is pretty excited by this, Booth - who casually knew Reinhardt years ago - is amused by it, everyone else regards it as crazy talk.

Holland et al decide to fix the ship and get out of there since something clearly isn’t right. Reinhardt accepts this, and even asks Durrant to take his notes back home just in case he doesn’t survive this

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Am I complaining?

Was I complaining? I feel this is a flawed near-great movie. There's a really, really good core in here that they kinda' blow, but it's a noble shot and a near miss brought on by some pretty clear "Oh, crap, are we really gonna' include blasphemy in a Disney movie?" gutslessness that brought about some unfortunate confusion in the story.

But I genuinely like the movie. Despite all its failings, I was pleasantly surprised upon re-watching it.

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Whattaya want, it's Disney!

Why is it that most science fiction since "2001" tends to be visually stunning but unintelligibly written?

When I saw "Black Hole" I thought that the escaping ship successfully navigated the hole and appeared in a new universe--not so much back at Earth, but in an entirely new place to explore, while the bad guy wound up paying for his actions, trapped in his best robot's body the way he'd trapped his own crew into robot bodies.

The floating robots were too cute, even for me, and were thrown in because cute robots were all the fashion at the time. And in this Disney film, their actions were almost painfully silly comedy relief.

Where have all the robots gone, anyway? Now all we see are androids. I guess it's cheaper to have a human actor put on a little make-up and say "I am a robot" than it is to actually have a robot that looks like a robot. Geez, would it kill them to just incorporate a Roomba or even the See-N-Spell they used for Theo in "Buck Rogers?"

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War?

V.I.N.C.E.N.T. introduces himself, and B.O.B. mentions that he was part of the Bio-Organic Brigade which is never explained, but probably had something to do with life support or medical technology. They made it clear that his generally crappy appearance was due to having been abused for like 30 years by the other 'bots. No mention of war, though.

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As I recall

As I recall when V.I.N.C.E.N.T. and B.O.B meet they tell each other what units they were in during an unspecified war. So they where originally combat bots that were converted after the war.

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If I were to apply logic to a fundamentally illogical thing

I don't think the robots were built for combat. Probably grunt-work.

V.I.N.C.E.N.T. and B.O.B. were built for broader jobs, and were designed differently. They had built-in guns, too.

Interestingly, in the novelization, V.I.N.C.E.'s guns get fried out the moment he comes on the Cygnus by an automated defense system, so in all the shoot-out scenes, he's actually *carrying* pistols in one or more of his four hands.

The puppeteers couldn't make this work, so they just had his internal guns magically work again, but evidently the book was based on an earlier draft of the script.

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The Guns in Black Hole

I will say this:
The guns in the show were unique with the over and under style blasters.

However, why exctly you'd have legions of armed robots would have guns that required human hands to operate is a mystery.

Nevermind, why Reinheart had legions of armed robots. After all, his crew were already zombies. Who was he afraid of?

I know, I know, don't ask too many questions. Just sit back and watch the flashy lights....

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Disney Fundamentalism

Yes to all of that. Pretty much exactly.

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Wow, your description actually makes a lot more sense than the movie ever did.

Like many 1970's movies, It suffers from 2001 syndrome:
"Let's put something visually stunning together with an incomprehensible ending. The effects will get people in the theaters, and the ending will have them talking about it afterwards!"

That said, the Cygnus is gorgeous, as is the effect of the black hole.

The Cygnus is however, absolutely horrendous to try to draw. I only did it once. Never again.

In my comic strip, it is referenced as the beginning of the Disney Fundamentalist movement. They hate science and science fiction because "The Black Hole" was the first movie to break with the Disney Covenent by being PG.

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Oh Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Ohhhh Yeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! Now I remember why I forgot it.

The ending in the movie is pretty cut and dry: the Black Hole *is* the way out of the physical universe, and into supernatural realms. They fall it. They're not dead, so an angel escorts them back into the physical universe.

The planet they're heading towards is *probably* intended to be earth.

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"So how did it end in the

"So how did it end in the book?"

With something they could never have gotten away with showing in the movie, even after "2001" came out -- nobody would have understood it, any more than they initially understood the whole Starchild thing.

Turns out the "black hole" is a wormhole, and at the other end the Palomino survivors are spun out as particles, single-atom chunks of them materializing across the universe. There is no pain, though, and they all retain some kind of mutual consciousness -- Foster refers to it as "something that was KateCharlieDanandVincent" (yes, Vincent gets in on it too), and suggests that they still have some effect on the universe from their unique vantage point.

You have to admit it makes more sense than whatever the hell that ending in the film was supposed to be.

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Re: Lunch bag Art

Re: the lunch bag art - those were pretty cool, I loved the Puppeteer and the Dolphin Arms particularly. Didn't care for Khan, but faces are hard. And was that Tic-Tock the windup man of Oz?

That page didn't seem to want to load right. Most of the screen was blank, and the pictures were half-off the side of the frame.

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Iconically weird

>>I have to admit, I only saw it once (not in the original theater run), but the thing that stuck in my mind was the rather "roboerotic" quality of that final Maximilian/Reinhardt scene. Kind of muted the power of the Hell scene to follow because I was half grossed out and half bemused.<<

It is iconically weird, isn't it? Memorable, offputting, but even now I'm not entirely sure I know what it means.

>>With some better editing on the script, Disney might have had something with this one.<<

Agreed. This was a much more frustrating target to miss than the ones Disney usually misses.

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Alan Dean Foster

>>>I think it had something to do with John Barry's score -- which frankly is one of the best things about it.<<<

Agreed. Great music. Nobody can remember the music to Alien, but everyone can remember the music to The Black Hole.

>>>The novelization by Alan Dean Foster provides several explanations for things that remained a little confusing in the film, including a version of the ending that actually makes sense; I suspect that they were cut from the original film for time, or maybe Foster just thought through the plot a little more carefully than the director and screenwriter(s).<<<

He might have been working from an earlier version of the script (Pretty common) or it might have just been that authors were given a very free hand with novelizations in those days, and could pad it out with whatever they wanted. Such as Vonda McIntire's Star Trek Movie adaptations (Yawn), or Robert Thurston's Galactica Novelizations, which differ WILDLY from the episodes, and are actually pretty cool.

I read the Black Hole book several times when I was 12, but can't remember any of it apart from "Kate broke the connection, blinked twice, and said..." and a line about power cells being more expensive than baby food.

So how did it end in the book?

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Black Hole

"The probe goes in, and this is where it gets trippy: We see Reinhardt floating through space with wildly unkempt hair. (Seriously: the dude looks like he’s spent a couple decades alone - his personal grooming is pretty lax) He’s joined by Maximilian, and the two of them draw together in what looks uncomfortably like a loving embrace, then, suddenly the two of them merge, and we see Reinhardt’s terrified eyes looking out from/trapped within Maximilian’s body."

I have to admit, I only saw it once (not in the original theater run), but the thing that stuck in my mind was the rather "roboerotic" quality of that final Maximilian/Reinhardt scene. Kind of muted the power of the Hell scene to follow because I was half grossed out and half bemused.

With some better editing on the script, Disney might have had something with this one.

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I actually liked this movie

I actually liked this movie as a kid. I think it had something to do with John Barry's score -- which frankly is one of the best things about it.

The novelization by Alan Dean Foster provides several explanations for things that remained a little confusing in the film, including a version of the ending that actually makes sense; I suspect that they were cut from the original film for time, or maybe Foster just thought through the plot a little more carefully than the director and screenwriter(s).

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I admit to some confusion

>>>I thought this feature was for cheap films this is a high budget film for a sci-fi film of the period.<<<

I admit to some confusion on that point. I think these days I'm mostly just surveying the left-for-dead dogs of cinema.

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Visually beautiful with a dumb story

I thought this feature was for cheap films this is a high budget film for a sci-fi film of the period. That said I always get bored if I pay attention to the dialog but it makes a good screen saver one of those films you can watch with the sound off and listen to Pink Floyd.

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Whups, got the name wrong.

It wasn't Christine Holden. It was Kristin A. Downer. (That's not a pseudonym) Coincidentally, my first three or four girlfriends were all named some variation on "Christine," and it was thirty years ago, and I just sorta' got confused...

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