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An Arogantly Lowbrow SF Fan Advocates The Need For Literary Criticism.

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First of all, I’d like to thank Burt Cottage for his essay. Secondly I’d like to admit that this started out as a posting in the comments section which quickly grew to ludicrous size as I’m eloquent and loquacious. Eventually I decided my reply was neither eloquent and loquacious agreement, nor disagreement, nor did it involve swear words (Yet, but the night is young) but rather was part of the 0% of postings that are eloquent and loquacious clarification of a point I didn’t adequately articulate before, and so, dammit (Ah, there it is!), I should expand it from a mere comment to a real blog entry.

So, Burt: Those are all valid points, and thanks or stating them so articulately. I think they’re worthy of discussion, and in fact Lem himself discusses all of these to a greater or lesser extent. Rather than restate his reasoning (Which is really extensive and detailed), I’ll just interpolate it, but I want to point out that when I first started reading “Microworlds” by Lem, I was entirely of the opinion you’ve stated. Who’s to say what’s high or low art, and how dare they? What kind of crazy anti-egalitarianism is that? By the end of the book, though, he’d won me over because Stanislaw Lem is actually on the short list of the greatest SF writers of the 20th century.

Were it anyone else, I wouldn’t have taken note. Among lots of the ‘critical’ elite - or at least the pop-critical elite - there’s an air of unmarried marriage counselors and childless child psychologists about them. Those that can’t do *Talk* about doing to hide the fact that they can’t do it. We’ve all seen or known examples of that, and it’s a valid point. Art is subjective, after all. What is brilliant to me is meaningless to you and vice versa. I love the early impressionists and surrealism, I can’t stand cubism. Why? There’s no attempt to delineate my likes and dislikes, I’m just wired to love Dali and yawn at Picasso. I’m not saying Picasso sucks, it’s just not my cup of tea.

However we’re all aware of Sturgeon’s law: “90% of everything is crap.” That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing. I love Hershey’s Kisses, and I really don’t like high-end Swiss chocolate. Again, it’s just the way I’m wired, I prefer the low quality stuff, and I loves me a good potboiler SF novel. In fact, I think we could argue that I’m pretty lowbrow: I’ve been reading Steinbeck’s “Grapes of Wrath” for six months now, and am only halfway through it. It’s undeniably a classic, everyone has been screaming at me to read it my entire life, but I’m unable to plow through it, and I don’t enjoy it. Where are the ray gun battles? Where’s the sudden Twilight Zone reality shift that makes us re-asses everything that went before and causes us to go “ooooh?” You know: Art! Instead, all I’ve got is a bunch of ignorant Oakies on a laborious fool’s errand who’s only point is to get screwed.

The purpose for Literary Criticism is not so much to ‘rate’ things, as to help us identify the difference between the seeds and the chaff. There’s not a value judgment here (Except among the pretentious), simply a case of identification. Why do we need this? Well, here’s one of Lem’s examples:

No one is ever going to mistake Crime and Punishment for being written by Mickey Spillane, but why is that? They both fit pretty solidly within the Crime genre. The difference is in intent, and in execution. In intent, C&P is attempting to explore and map out the frontiers of the human soul, whereas Spillane is simply trying to make some money selling books that can be read on the can. One book is content to operate entirely within the confines of a set genre, whereas the other transcends the genre. It uses it as a starting point, but then goes its own direction. Or, if you’d like another example we can use “Grapes of Wrath” versus J.G. Ballard’s “Hello America.” Both are unquestionably the literary equivalent of road stories: Hero goes on a journey, has adventures, learns a bit about himself in the process, and comes to some larger realization about life in the process. “Wrath” is clearly literature for the same reasons that C&P is literature and anything by Spillane isn’t, while the “Hello America” is a

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Fair enough.

You said >>>anyone who thinks I am writing against the idea of Literary Criticism for sci-fi should keep in mind that I am merely of the opinion that to do so will serve a specific audience ... which I am not really a part of anyway<<<

Fair enough. A couple observations, Item by item:

To your first point - I'm not sure the artists aspiration are all that relevant. There's the old saw about 'art never being completed, just abandoned', but more to the point frequently art means something entirely different than what the artist intended. Dali frequently came out with things that were at odds with his inspiration, and Steve Kilby of the Church refuses to say what his songs are about, "I know what I was thinking of when I wrote them, but if it means something completely different to someone else, if they got something else out of it that I didn't conciously put there, who am I to tell them that they're wrong?"

To your second point - Yeah, it's of value to a comparatively limited audience - just as 90% of everything is crap, 90% of every audience is perfectly satisfied with crap (There were SIX Police Academy movies!), but if you're part of the 10% who's getting bored with a genre (Not just SF) and want something a bit more challenging or fulfilling, then you're in that comparatively limited audience, and suddenly you're really glad such a thing exists.

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Specificity

I apologize for any confusion in that my last comment lacked specificity. I was not referring to examples when I made the Adams reference, but to the 3 things you find appealing about Literary Criticism. Let me address them individually (which will probably make it clear we're not going to agree, but at least I'll have both cleared up and further muddled my earlier point [remember: I am a cartoonist at heart!]).

1) Short of an interview with the artist, I doubt mine or anyone else's abilility to determine whether a piece of art produced by that artist met or surpassed the author's ambitions. Maybe the author's greatest ambition is to return to the old days of the guy who was good at telling a story around a campfire. Success at his goal might appear to the casual glance to be very "unliterary". But if he met his goal, I want to congratulate him (even though the result of his writing may be that I hated it, I'll congratulate him on doing what he set out to do ... no I won't! A] I'll never meet him and 2] I'll chuck the book/story before getting far enough into it to appreciate it if I hate it that much, because ~] one of the great things about having grad-ee-ated (as the great Jethro Bodine would say) is that I no longer have assigned reading.

2) I get what you're saying but, as I tried (and possibly failed) to express in my essay, this is only of value to a limited segment of the audience. That's fine. However, it reminds me of a magician friend of mine. He's very good, but sometimes he'll show me a new trick he figured out that's only impressive to other magicians. The esoterica has become so specialized as to be have lost me. Me, not other magicians. To use your own illustration, I am very glad there are doctors out there who specialize in the pituitary gland, and I realize their knowledge and research eventually will trickle down to the GP and might help me, but tomorrow I just want to go to my PA and get a cream for this rash and--if all goes well--will never have to see anyone who specializes in something.

3) This will be helpful in that I do use classifications in my life--even my art life--so if someone who has a track record with me of being pretentious or elitist recommends a book to me on merit, I probably will pay close attention to their recommendation so as not to waste time on that book later. Oh, occasionally, I'll give in but (and I fully admit it's got a lot to do with my attitude) books generally live up to my expectations.

I must say, in summation, that anyone who thinks I am writing against the idea of Literary Criticism for sci-fi should keep in mind that I am merely of the opinion that to do so will serve a specific audience ... which I am not really a part of anyway, so why would you worry about alienating me? In the words of Yogi Berra, "If people don't want to come to the ball games, no one's going to stop 'em."

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No, no, now wait a minute:

On second thought, wait a minute here:

You said that my cited examples are exaclty why you want nothing to do with the concept, and *I* stated that one of the functions of criticism is merely to identify the difference between genre and genre-transcending writing, so people who want to go straight to the challenging stuff can do so without having to wade through the 300 Star Trek paperbacks that come out every week.

What's wrong with that?

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That's ok.

"Kilt: Traditional clothing work by Scotsmen in America, and Americans in Scotland" --- Ambrose Bierce ("The Devil's Dictionary")

Nah, that's fine. The point of the excercise is to point out new ideas and viewpoints, not to force people to accept them.

Certainly the thought of some Intelectual Elite passing their arcane and foppish opinion on whether or not Mack Bolan Novels count as art is the kind of thing that just inherently rubs us wrong as Americans. We're sort of raised on the idea that one person's opinion is as good as any other, and any attempt to say otherwise is obviosuly putting on airs. But I do think that an educated or specialized opinion is more valid than an uneducated one, which is why I talk to Doctors rather than my bowling partner when something goes wrong with me physically, and Lawyers rather than bait shop workers when I need legal advice.

But I do think there's room for both points of view.

So, anyway, you're saying that you wanted trek to just keep on repeating itself forever?

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Classic

"Classic: something everyone praises and no one reads." -- Mark Twain

At the risk of being contentious, your three stated reasons in favor of Literary Criticism sum up pretty well why I'm not interested. Rather like in Hitchhiker's when it was stated that the humans thought they were superior because of their cities, bridges and wars and the dolphins thought they were superior because they didn't have cities, bridges or wars. But, if that's what a writer or reader wants or aspires to, I'm OK with that because it's probably equally OK with them to find that they are writing things I will not be interested in.

Also, my apologies for calling a writer "Eric Flynt" when it should have been Eric Flynn (I think ... ).

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Possibly

Or it might just take an hour to show up. The comments system here has always been a bit wonky. R2 is working on it, but so far: nothing. I'm really sorry about that.

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Odd

I posted a longish comment, but it doesn't seem to be showing up. Database problem?

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